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The Bombardier CRJ700 series for FlightGear Flight Simulator.
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Canvas Instruments #2

Open D-ECHO opened 4 years ago

D-ECHO commented 4 years ago

work done by @d-jsb, extract/incorporate framework into FGAddon, then bring the instruments to this repository https://forum.flightgear.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=31088&p=359105#p359093

DanielMeissner commented 4 years ago

Just to give you a hint of what's to come (I hope soon?) :P Henning really did great work on this! fgfs-20200102154657

By the way: Working Nav source selection and finally correct course pointer colors :-)

D-ECHO commented 4 years ago

Really cool! Definitely looking forward to that

tdammers commented 4 years ago

By the way: Working Nav source selection and finally correct course pointer colors :-)

Oooooh... this is something I've wanted for a long time, but never got around to fixing it...

tdammers commented 4 years ago

Quick question here: where does the code for that live? I tried the canvas-efis-beta branch on @DanielMeissner's fork, ~but that crashes FG during startup~ Never mind, I was using a broken attempted merge instead of the real thing.

tdammers commented 4 years ago

OK, impressions so far:

D-ECHO commented 4 years ago

@tdammers canvas-efis-beta is not the correct version, it's afaik on d-jsb's computer (only?)

I think we should delay this discussion until it's released. @d-jsb please (really) don't feel pressured, take your time :)

tdammers commented 4 years ago

Right.

FWIW, I'd much prefer sampling a WIP version over waiting for this to evolve secretly. I don't see what harm there could be in sharing what's currently there.

D-ECHO commented 4 years ago

I don't think this is about keeping something secret, it's just that everyone has real-life obligues to do.

tdammers commented 4 years ago

Of course. So do I.

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I don't think this is about keeping something secret, it's just that everyone has real-life obligues to do.

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D-ECHO commented 4 years ago

Do the instruments already ported to canvas also inclue the frequency selectors (RMU?) on the rear pedestal?

DanielMeissner commented 4 years ago

Not as far as I know...

D-ECHO commented 4 years ago

Okay thx

When the FDM and cockpit 3d is in a good shape, I could add them

d-jsb commented 3 years ago

It is finally online. I just pushed one big commit to my https://github.com/d-jsb/CRJ700-family master branch. I guess it contains the work of the last two or three years. While I am really happy to have this finally uploaded, I am sure there will be a lot of small and not so small issues. The most obvious being not updated documentation.

D-ECHO commented 3 years ago

Great work! I'm currently cloning your repo into another folder and will post some feedback once done.

D-ECHO commented 3 years ago

On first test it seems very nice, a lot of functionality and I haven't found any bugs yet :) Thank you!

d-jsb commented 3 years ago

I recommend running FG with console window - do not worry about the "ERROR: Cannot add listener to tied property " none of them caused a real problem so far - I reported this to the dev mailing list already, it is only an issue under certain conditions which does not seem to apply to our use case. You may want to have a look to checklists and tutorials (help menu), the "Bombardier CRJ700" menu, the items in the "Ground ops" menu etc. Hint: if you want to use in-flight start from the menu on ground, open the config dialog from the same menu and enable Developer mode (aircraft up and running in under a second ;))

d-jsb commented 3 years ago

oh, and I guess you need to enable horizontal stab trim from the config dialog or AP may do weird things - old FG versions (yasim version to be accurate) won't support it. The point is that you can trim the stabilizer since yasim version 2018.1 (this is how real airliners do it) so you do not have to rely on elevator trim only (elevator trim in real live is mostly seen on small GA aircraft, not airliners). This leads to more elevator authority available on approach.

tdammers commented 3 years ago

I am pretty sure I had already fixed the elevator / stab trim thing - on recent yasim versions, yoke and AP control elevator, and AP trim and manual trim control stabilizer; on older yasim, stab trim is emulated with elevator trim, which is as good an approximation as you will get. There was also some reverse logic to make the yasim solver work for both cases.

I can't remember whether I removed the stab trim config option, but I reckon with the yasim version compat stuff in place, it would be unnecessary.

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oh, and I guess you need to enable horizontal stab trim from the config dialog or AP may do weird things - old FG versions (yasim version to be accurate) won't support it. The point is that you can trim the stabilizer since yasim version 2018.1 (this is how real airliners do it) so you do not have to rely on elevator trim only (elevator trim in real live is mostly seen on small GA aircraft, not airliners). This leads to more elevator authority available on approach.

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d-jsb commented 3 years ago

Ok, I did not check the history of this repo yet. I guess there are some improvements from you all that have to be merged. I guess I can start this tomorrow or at the weekend...