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Monthly Ticket for Quest Changes #14789

Closed chochem closed 8 months ago

chochem commented 11 months ago

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chochem

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2.4.0/1

Overview

Well, maybe it is the bi-monthly ticket for quest changes. A ticket for any large or small problems with any quests. Just post below. Of course, you can also make a dedicated ticket. In particular for more indepth suggestion or problems a dedicated one is better.

The most up-to-date quest files can always be found here: https://github.com/GTNewHorizons/GT-New-Horizons-Modpack/tree/master/config/betterquesting/DefaultQuests Depending on your version, you might also need to update BQ to use them.

Below are the remaining things from the last ticket (https://github.com/GTNewHorizons/GT-New-Horizons-Modpack/issues/14099):

Quest Changes

Wishlist for New Quests

Add more quests to the new mobility tab:

Potential Overhauls/Ongoing Discussions

Logarathon1 commented 11 months ago

"desc:8": "You can process Sulfuric Naphtha to fluid Naphtha which has a burn value of 320,000 EU in the Gas Turbine. Naphtha can be used to get Rthylene for Polyethylene, but it shares this use with Refinery Gas and Light Fuel, so decide for yourself which one you want to use. \n\nIf you choose to make High-Octane Gasoline in EV and onwards, it will need a lot of Naphtha. You can also make Polycaprolactam (Nylon), which doesn\u0027t have any useful purpose yet, but it might get some in the near future."

ALongStringOfNumbers commented 10 months ago

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This is the new GUI of the Ender Fluid Link Cover. There is no longer a Color entry, it was instead replaced with a Channel textbox. The quest just needs to be updated to replace references of the Color field to the Channel textbox

Pxx500 commented 10 months ago

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This is the new GUI of the Ender Fluid Link Cover. There is no longer a Color entry, it was instead replaced with a Channel textbox. The quest just needs to be updated to replace references of the Color field to the Channel textbox

https://github.com/GTNewHorizons/GT-New-Horizons-Modpack/pull/14817

bombcar commented 10 months ago

Is there a "monthly quest PR" we can push against instead of making individual ones?

Anyway:

chochem commented 10 months ago

such a mega PR would be too messy I think and too hard to review. I usually do a PR for maybe 5-10 small things at a time. But individual is fine too. As you were on a break for a bit, I should probably point out that the backend is completely redone and so conflicts and id nonsense are much less of an issue now. meaning multiple small PRs at the same time (usually) dont cause any problems.

bombcar commented 10 months ago

I should probably point out that the backend is completely redone and so conflicts and id nonsense are much less of an issue now. meaning multiple small PRs at the same time (usually) don't cause any problems.

I noticed that, is it now "safe" to do manual text changes to QB descriptions and only check it in the game? I assume if not moving or renaming the quest, etc it results in the same.

Pxx500 commented 10 months ago

Is there a "monthly quest PR" we can push against instead of making individual ones?

Anyway:

  • [x] Oilsand, or How You Get Heavy Oil - Heavy oil can be used in LV by making lube or burning it in a semifluid generator. Suggest last line be: "There's not much use for Heavy Oil until MV, but you could make lubricant for your cutting machine or burn it in a semifluid generator. Or store it in barrels for later."

I'll add it to my PR after I come back to my house

bombcar commented 10 months ago
chochem commented 10 months ago
Star-Tube commented 10 months ago

The EV quest "Pulverize the Planet" gives three options for getting tungsten. I am doing a funky monkey challenge run where none of the three are available (reasonably) but a fourth option is available using Pahoehoe lava processing. Could I confirm if there is a silent check for holding enough tungsten and if not then request one be added since while we don't want to advise players to go the way I am going it should fulfill the quest.

bombcar commented 10 months ago
Star-Tube commented 10 months ago

"Blood Altar Tier 3" in the PS. section it says "the pillars are the only change" but looking at the wiki it seems this is not the only case. Probably should make that "are" into an "aren't".

chochem commented 10 months ago

"Blood Altar Tier 3" in the PS. section it says "the pillars are the only change" but looking at the wiki it seems this is not the only case. Probably should make that "are" into an "aren't".

wdym, what else is changed?

Pxx500 commented 10 months ago

"Blood Altar Tier 3" in the PS. section it says "the pillars are the only change" but looking at the wiki it seems this is not the only case. Probably should make that "are" into an "aren't".

wdym, what else is changed?

Quest references that the pillars are not made out of vanilla blood magic materials, but it doesn't specify it and it may look like the quest states that only filars are the difference between T2 and T3 altar

chochem commented 10 months ago

the quest looks correct to me

Pxx500 commented 10 months ago

the quest looks correct to me

I'm just saying the quest is a little ambiguous with it's phrasing, not wrong

Star-Tube commented 10 months ago

"Blood Altar Tier 3" in the PS. section it says "the pillars are the only change" but looking at the wiki it seems this is not the only case. Probably should make that "are" into an "aren't".

wdym, what else is changed?

Mainly the blood runes. The way it is worded now makes it seem like what is listed in the quest is the only materials needed for the upgrade which is simply false.

bombcar commented 10 months ago
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ChaosFiller commented 10 months ago

Add quest to "And So, It Begins" and/or "Tips and Tricks" documenting the chat calculation feature. "You can perform calculations in chat! Typing an = followed by an equation will print the output in chat. There must be a space between the equals sign and the beginning of the equation. For example, =2*2 is not valid, but = 2*2 is. Currently supported operators are: <>"

anexoticllama commented 10 months ago

Adjust "Putting the 'Semi' Back Into Generators LV" to not be gated behind "Advanced Fluid Extractor"

Recipe is doable in LV as of 2.4.0, but quest is gated behind MV. Either crafting table recipe or quest needs adjustment

bombcar commented 10 months ago
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chochem commented 9 months ago

Add quest to "And So, It Begins" and/or "Tips and Tricks" documenting the chat calculation feature. "You can perform calculations in chat! Typing an = followed by an equation will print the output in chat. There must be a space between the equals sign and the beginning of the equation. For example, =22 is not valid, but = 22 is. Currently supported operators are: <>"

hmm that is certainly too niche for the tips and tricks page. might still deserve a mention somewhere.

chochem commented 9 months ago

Adjust "Putting the 'Semi' Back Into Generators LV" to not be gated behind "Advanced Fluid Extractor"

Recipe is doable in LV as of 2.4.0, but quest is gated behind MV. Either crafting table recipe or quest needs adjustment

prereqs look fine. maybe already fixed

bombcar commented 9 months ago

but the blue color used is nicely readable :)

bombcar commented 9 months ago
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I assume this is to keep diesel (following) somewhat gated, but you only really need one MV electrolyzer to get hydrogen from some dusts, and if you're electrolyzing salt water or water, you're better off using LV electrolyzers.

Maybe make it require an MV and an LV? Multiple LV + one MV?

bombcar commented 9 months ago
srdr2k3 commented 9 months ago

"EV Chemical Bath" quest needs an or logic for the multiblock version. It was buffed to EV recently image

slyk26 commented 9 months ago

Quest for LCR tells you that full hatches will void items

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chochem commented 9 months ago

Quest for LCR tells you that full hatches will void items

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https://github.com/GTNewHorizons/GT-New-Horizons-Modpack/pull/14990 already fixed

ChaosFiller commented 9 months ago

The PCB Factory Quest gives incorrect formulas for how production / duration changes with trace size. image @ 50 Trace Size the quest book formulas give x20,000 production x0.0004 duration (since it divides the RecipeTime by 50^2)

The correct formulas are Production = NEI Output (100/Trace Size) Duration = NEI Duration (100/Trace Size)^2

Additionally, it should specify that trace size is bounded between 50 - 200. This is mentioned in the config GUI itself, but it would be helpful to show up in the quest too.

Pxx500 commented 9 months ago

The PCB Factory Quest gives incorrect formulas for how production / duration changes with trace size. image @ 50 Trace Size the quest book formulas give x20,000 production x0.0004 duration (since it divides the RecipeTime by 50^2)

The correct formulas are Production = NEI Output (100/Trace Size) Duration = NEI Duration (100/Trace Size)^2

Additionally, it should specify that trace size is bounded between 50 - 200. This is mentioned in the config GUI itself, but it would be helpful to show up in the quest too.

If the default is 100, then it's not 0,0004x but 4x. What you're talking about would be correct if the default was trace size 1. Same goes for the other one, you know the default is 100, so 100/100 is 1, this means 10000 is how the chance is coded in. It's just 100,00%

JL2210 commented 9 months ago

Quest book says:

You can use paper binding to add an extra modifier, but it's very important because you will get modifiers with tool levels.

Suggest changing "it's very important" to "it's not very important"

LionEl-johnson14 commented 9 months ago
pionoplayer commented 9 months ago

Early quest in "Fishing Farming and Cooking"; Animal Traps, should explain how you actually USE animal (and fish) traps: specifically you need to place them IN the ground, surrounded by dirt or grass blocks on all four sides according to the harvestcraft wiki, with the trap's top open to air.

hallucinogender commented 9 months ago

There are two mutually-redundant quest lines for ProjectRed item pipes. Both exist within the "Basic Automation" tab, both provide similar information, both require similar tasks for completion, and both reward a drawer controller; the key difference is that one of these quest lines is short and simple, and the other one is more in-depth and includes an extended quest line for using ProjectRed to automate oil processing. It seems likely that one of these two quest lines was intented to replace the other, but instead they are both present.

I recommend removing the shorter and less informative of the two quest lines, which consists of the following quests:

As these two quest lines are mutually redundant (excluding the oil-processing-related part of the longer quest line), removing the shorter and less informative one will mean that players can no longer get twice the reward from the same sequence of tasks.

Csstform commented 9 months ago

I think a quest or two should be added to introduce the new/higher tier ME bus/hatches, instead of the current one off quest to introduce them, similar to how the terminals have multiple stages of quests.

quegabriel commented 9 months ago
chochem commented 8 months ago
slyk26 commented 8 months ago

Build a maceration statck ... (which should be stack)

Kyramesh commented 8 months ago

Since this machine needs mithril (i think venus is a source, so probably Tier 4?) and naquadah doped wafer, I don't think it's position in the QB is accurate (just after T2 rocket). Screenshot 2024-01-14 111415

AbdielKavash commented 8 months ago
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chochem commented 8 months ago

"EV Chemical Bath" quest needs an or logic for the multiblock version. It was buffed to EV recently image

this is incorrect. the multi needs the singleblock.

kaliptoDev commented 7 months ago

Hey there :) Well, there is just a small typing error in the Cleanroom quest, in the MultiBlocks tab. image