What sorts of out-of-combat effects should we have?

[seiyria]

Walk on fire, lose max hp for a while? Step on a trainer, get a blessing?

Maybe have some skills in combat persist to out of combat?

[sedgwick]

• The acid tile (not yet in, but would be in the acid caves at least) should probably apply a -con effect. Maybe acid tiles have a sticky effect, where it's harder to find new items.
• lava tiles grant a +fire and maybe -hpregen?
• grass should probably be a neutral tile, unless you have a really interesting idea. It's the most basic one and all over the place.
• water tiles I'm not sure either. They're so prevalent that you'd have to believe a large percent of players are going to be swimming around Norkos oceans. If anything, +water
• ice tiles could give haste(1), like you're sliding around, and a -fire or +ice. Possibly a dex or agi related for it being harder to hit or something while it's freezing. Maybe -water too, as your water spells would just turn in to ice.
• snow could probably give haste(-1), as it's harder to walk on.
• carpet tile, maybe royal(1) for some fancy plush carpet? The characters spend probably so long walking on dirt, drowning in the ocean, a nice carpet would feel royal to them.
• swamp tile, maybe +int -luck. There's definitely some weird magical stuff going on in swamps with the giant mushrooms.
• skeleton/sign tiles also grant +wis
• wooden tiles could have a +gold effect. more traveled so more likely to find gold.
• dirt tiles +earth

I think the big factor here would be weighing pros and cons. If a certain tile type causes only negative consequences, people just might try to avoid an area. Something like " don't waste your time on the fire plains, you'll just have no health and be stuck there for awhile."

Maybe have some skills in combat persist to out of combat?

Depends on the effect. I'm not sure what should or should not persist out of combat. Though, stepping on a trainer and having it give you a blessing makes me think of a boss effect, where if you beat some bosses maybe you could get temporary buffs. Beat the vampire lord, you have half an hour of vampire(1) or something.

[seiyria]

I like the ideas you listed. A few of them I'd even thought of myself! Okay, actually only the ice one, haha.

Depends on the effect. I'm not sure what should or should not persist out of combat. Though, stepping on a trainer and having it give you a blessing makes me think of a boss effect, where if you beat some bosses maybe you could get temporary buffs. Beat the vampire lord, you have half an hour of vampire(1) or something.

This is an interesting idea as well. I like it, but it doesn't quite fit in this issue. Maybe that could get added to some existing boss issue, or split off into a new one.

Also, we have a small list of existing buffs here. Just, none of them are in use yet, hah.

Some of these might be precedent for some new random objects, like shrines / anti-shrines (bless / forsake respectively), as well.

[sedgwick]

I had not seen those listed before, but that's good that the foundation is already there. Expanding that list with a variety of new buffs could be used to apply to the tiles, I suppose? The burn buff just gets applied to lava tiles, an "icy" buff that does the haste +1 to the ice tiles, etc.

shrines / anti-shrines

Adding to #698

[seiyria]

Yeah. They can be tweaked as necessary, but I figured I should let you know that there are definitely buffs already. Buffs will not stack on each other (ie, if you're in the fire plains, you'd definitely have one persistent debuff for a while, but it wouldn't stack).

I think we can use buffs in that sense to add different flavors of challenge to areas, when areas can limit what spawns in their region.