Redundant example sentences

[stephenmk]

I searched the JMdict_e_examp file for entries with example sentences that are nearly identical to the entry headwords. I found a couple dozen. These sorts of example sentences are somewhat redundant, so we may want to consider removing the associated priority tags in the Tatoeba database.

Sequence	Headword	SentenceID	Sentence	Meaning
1107700	ファイト	197239	ファイトだ。	Don't give up the fight.
1211360	堪忍袋の緒が切れる	183970	堪忍袋の緒が切れる。	My patience has come to the breaking point.
1217220	眼中にない	183667	眼中にない。	I don't exist to you.
1229820	泣き面に蜂	182382	泣き面に蜂。	Misfortunes never come singly.
1266470	呼吸	174577	呼吸は？	Is he breathing?
1294220	最低	170386	最低！	You're disgusting!
1338260	出る釘は打たれる	147764	出る釘は打たれる。	The nail that sticks up gets hammered down.
1374550	すごい	214728	すごいぞ！	Terrific!
1448740	灯台下暗し	354110	灯台下暗し。	You can't see the forest for the trees.
1453320	同病相憐れむ	123642	同病相憐れむ。	Misery loves company.
1514120	取らぬ狸の皮算用	148681	取らぬ狸の皮算用か。	Are you counting your chickens before they are hatched?
1640760	窮すれば通ず	182371	窮すれば通ず。	Necessity is the mother of invention.
1674540	明々白々	80233	明々白々だ。	It's abundantly clear.
1782980	喧嘩両成敗	175411	喧嘩両成敗。	It takes two to make a quarrel.
2013650	踏んだり蹴ったり	123893	踏んだり蹴ったり。	It never rains but it pours.
2016860	懐が暖かい	185149	懐が暖かい。	I have plenty of money with me.
2119740	何だって	187857	何だって？	What did you say?
2128500	もう一踏ん張り	194281	もう一踏ん張り！	Stick to it!
2140010	面目丸つぶれ	80187	面目丸つぶれだ。	I have lost face completely.
2197810	無駄口をたたく	80906	無駄口をたたくな。	Don't waste your breath.
2220750	口ばっかり	173926	口ばっかり！	You're all talk and no action!
2393900	いい加減にしろ	229374	いい加減にしろよ。	Cut it out.
2547280	よく言う	192781	よく言うよ。	Don't make me laugh.
2683950	もうたくさん	194397	もうたくさんだ。	I have had it.
2839342	失敗を恐れる	149586	失敗を恐れるな。	Don't be afraid of making mistakes.

Similarly, I searched for example sentences that are nearly identical to the cross-references within the same entries. I found nine.

Sequence	Headword	Sense	Reference	SentenceID	Sentence	Meaning
1194500	花	7	言わぬが花	174747	言わぬが花。	"Speech is silver, silence is gold."
1387340	先んずる	1	先んずれば人を制す	141901	先んずれば人を制す。	"First come, first served."
1405750	賊軍	1	勝てば官軍負ければ賊軍	147190	勝てば官軍負ければ賊軍。	"If you win, you are in the right, but if you lose, you are in the wrong."
1488460	百聞	1	百聞は一見に如かず	85412	百聞は一見に如かず。	Seeing is believing.
1742050	窮鼠	1	窮鼠猫を噛む	182372	窮鼠猫を噛む。	A cornered rat will bite a cat.
2034480	身につく	2	悪銭身に付かず	191400	悪銭身に付かず。	"Ill gained, ill spent."
2106260	こった	1	何てこった	187851	何てこった。	Holy cow!
2138820	如かず	1	百聞は一見に如かず	85412	百聞は一見に如かず。	Seeing is believing.
2438770	弥立つ	1	身の毛がよだつ	144747	身の毛がよだつ。	Make one's hair stand on end.

So for example, in the entry for 花 on sense 07, the cross reference and example sentence are currently identical.

[stephenmk]

If nobody has any objections within about a week or so, I'll start working through cleaning these up.

[JMdictProject]

I'm glad there are only a few, and they should be cleaned up.

I looked in detail at the first two, and they are actually good examples of how such a clean-up could go:

• for ファイト, there is only that one trivial sentence using it. It is useless as an example. I have dropped it entirely (deleted the index from Tatoeba.)
• for 堪忍袋の緒が切れる, there are several sentences using the expression. I added the priority tag (~) to a better sentence, and dropped the old one completely.

So in a clean-up I think the first thing should be to try and identify a more appropriate example sentence and move the tag there. If sentences are useless (as in the ファイト case) they can dropped by removing the index. I use the sentence display option in wwwjdic to help search for possible suitable sentences.

[stephenmk]

I deleted all the indices for the top set of sentences. For the bottom set I only removed the priority flags since those sentences are indexed to more than one entry.

So in a clean-up I think the first thing should be to try and identify a more appropriate example sentence and move the tag there.

Below is a list of the more appropriate example sentences that I picked out. I already set the priority flags on these sentences. If everything looks good then it should be fine to close this issue.

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呼吸 [01]

酸素は私たちが呼吸すると肺の中に取り込まれる。 Oxygen is taken into our lungs when we breathe.

最低 [01]

私は最低２マイルは歩ける。 I can walk at least two miles.

最低 [02]

こんな最低の目にあったことはないわ！ This is the worst thing that has ever happened to me!

最低 [03]

あの映画、最低！ That movie stinks!

すごい [01]

そんなすごい目で睨み付けないでください。 Don't look so fiercely at me.

すごい [02]

今すごい名案がうかんだぞ。 I've just come up with a great idea.

踏んだり蹴ったり [01]

雨には降られるわ、デートに遅刻するわ、財布を落とすわ、今日は踏んだり蹴ったりだよ。 I get caught in the rain, I'm late for my date, and I lose my pocketbook. It's just one thing after another today.

懐が暖かい [01]

トムは今日給料をもらったのでふところがあったかい。 Tom is flush with money since he got paid today.

いい加減にしろ [01]

いい加減にしろっつの。恵子さん、嫌がってるだろ。 I said 'Quit it'. Can't you see Keiko hates that?

もうたくさん [01]

この悪い天気はもうたくさんだ。 We've had enough of this bad weather.

口ばかり [01]

あいつは口ばかりで、誠意がないね。巧言令色少なし仁とはよくいったもんだ。 They say fine words are no virtue if they're insincere and that's him in a nutshell. He's all talk but doesn't mean a word of it.

[JMdictProject]

They look fine. I think this can be closed.