META: Functionality to be removed (inspector, editor, ... ?)

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Part of stabilizing the security issues with Classilla is figuring out what
not to support.

Although Chatzilla remains in 9.0, it will be removed for the next version
as this one has several known serious bugs and future versions can't run in
this older Mozilla codebase. That much is definite. There are better IRC
clients for the Mac anyway.

However, are people regularly using Mail? Composer?

Original issue reported on code.google.com by classi...@floodgap.com on 31 May 2009 at 8:59

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Or Venkman? The version of Venkman in Classilla/Moz 1.3 is also grotesquely old 
and
out of date, though in fairness I know of no serious problems with it.

Original comment by classi...@floodgap.com on 1 Jun 2009 at 12:00

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I do not use Mail, Composer, or IRC om WamCom. But with that said, I think that 
the
Mail portion of Mozilla is fairly full featured. Of course it is free and open, 
which
is of good value.

Original comment by william....@gmail.com on 2 Jun 2009 at 1:21

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Mail is probably the least likely to go away, but I would like some input from 
people
who are using WaMCoM for mail already as they are the target audience.

Composer will probably break with the layout updates planned for 9.0.5-9.1 and 
I'll
probably deprecate it with 9.0.4 unless there is a loud outcry.

Original comment by classi...@floodgap.com on 11 Jun 2009 at 11:50

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Accepting DOM Inspector as supported, as it was very invaluable for debugging 
9.0.
This also might change after the 9.0.5 updates land, but we'll see.

Original comment by classi...@floodgap.com on 28 Jun 2009 at 12:15

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Wallet and keywords?

Original comment by classi...@floodgap.com on 29 Jun 2009 at 12:01

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Executive decision: pending the JavaScript update, Chatzilla will either be
deprecated (still works) or removed (breaks) by 9.0.4. If deprecated, it will be
removed from the icon bar, but still accessible from the menus, and its 
preferences
will be marked as deprecated. Also starting Chatzilla will generate a warning.

Original comment by classi...@floodgap.com on 18 Jul 2009 at 3:30

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Mail is not of much use unless it can speak modern SSL (does it?); this will be 
a
pain point going forward, as many/most service providers now require a modern
implementation of SSL.

Original comment by pos...@aurora.cotse.net on 29 Aug 2009 at 7:19

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Like I say, I don't use Classilla for mail and I never used WaMCom for it 
either. In
fact, my mail isn't even accessible via POP or IMAP, so I am definitely not the
target audience.

If someone would like to do some banging on the mail system, I'll all ears for 
their
findings. Really it needs someone to test it thoroughly.

As far as other features, wallet is staying for the moment. DOM Inspector and 
Venkman
are doing okay with the current changes in 9.0.4-internal. Chatzilla 
deprecation will
be done at time of release.

Original comment by classi...@floodgap.com on 30 Aug 2009 at 12:13

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Say goodbye > 
Chat, mail - never used in NS 7+, Moz 1.2.1 - WaMCom 1.3.1 - Classilla 9.0.
Composer only played with once.
Wallet  also never used.

Save the following >
DOMi & Venkman are keepers. 
Some people may find keywords useful. (OR irritating. I'm the latter.)
Just my opinions.
::tony::

Original comment by a_tony_...@inbox.com on 16 Sep 2009 at 12:44

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I use Mail & News since Navigator 2, whithout big troubles.
There is only 2 POP3 mail clients whith html support for Mac Os 9 (MS Outlook 
and
Nescape-WanCom-Classilla)
classilla is the only one reliable.

In my opinion Mail & News is a very valuable addon to Classilla.
I also like Composer.

In terms of simplicity I prefer to focus on a bit more usable version of 
PPEmbed than
removing Mail&News and Composer from Classilla.

Ok to remove IRC Chat.

Original comment by emi...@lavabit.com on 15 Oct 2009 at 3:28

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I'm committing to maintaining Mailnews for the current future; you and others 
have
written in to request that it stay.

Original comment by classi...@floodgap.com on 21 Oct 2009 at 4:14

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Chatzilla is now removed from the internal build of 9.1. The chatzilla.dtd used 
by
Venkman has been moved into the global jar and renamed, but I have left Cmd-3
intentionally unallocated so that people's habitual keyboard shortcuts still 
work the
same.

Original comment by classi...@floodgap.com on 22 Jan 2010 at 6:01

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I use Mail in Classilla with lavabit.com's POP and SMTP support (SSL port 995), 
and have no issues whatsoever. The only issues I've seen are with certain spam 
emails, and those are usually from countries outside of the US, and generally 
using a language that Classilla doesn't support.

Original comment by briande...@warpmail.net on 5 Aug 2010 at 6:34

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Noted. I'm going to revise the summary since I have no plans to remove mailnews 
for the foreseeable future.

It is possible that DOM Inspector and the Editor may not survive the layout 
update. Speak now if this is important. I'll preserve them if I can, but if I 
can't and there is no mourning I shall retire them. Venkman should not be 
affected by it.

Original comment by classi...@floodgap.com on 6 Aug 2010 at 5:27

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