Closed davebeach closed 6 years ago
KetchCyork
commented
6 years ago This is frustrating because I was trying to get a clear understanding of the process for the lifecycle of teh sprint and we are still asking questions. My though was to use todobot and segregate by status - like a kanban board, but we would need more details - here is what I created for Sprint 2 - https://ketchkmproject.workast.io/list/5a95a08132c57672fac2e27a but if you have a better idea let me know
davebeach
commented
6 years ago I get it. But I’m telling you to just let me do sprint2. Then you will get it.
Agile is not just doing waterfall within a short set period of tome. It is throwing out planning in the traditional sense and instead focus is on doing the work in a non management way. Study after study shows I am right on this one. And we can even begin to see that as there has been lots of comments already (self motivated go out and figure it out - gave us the most amount of feedback we have received since I started).
Note I have already responded to every comment.
As far as slack - don’t focus on what it does now and instead tell me what are the things you want. Then I will create a custom app to do just that. The idea is again different. You don’t prepackage in a standardized PMO way of doing things and instead let the participants champion that. You use slack as a dynamic things where u create apps to automate stuff where it is needed and you don’t where it doesn’t.
At the end of each day you will get a deliverance burn rate. You can compare that to the timeline for the sprint to get idea of where we are at.
David Beach
From: Chris York notifications@github.com Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 9:05:24 AM To: KetchPartners/kmsprint2 Cc: David Beach; Author Subject: Re: [KetchPartners/kmsprint2] Need to track requirements and changes to requirements using Kanban boards (#6)
This is frustrating because I was trying to get a clear understanding of the process for the lifecycle of teh sprint and we are still asking questions. My though was to use todobot and segregate by status - like a kanban board, but we would need more details - here is what I created for Sprint 2 - https://ketchkmproject.workast.io/list/5a95a08132c57672fac2e27a but if you have a better idea let me know
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davebeach
commented
6 years ago Let me day one then I will train you tomorrow on how to create your own app. Then you will get that you have only seen 1% of what slack does.
David Beach
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This is frustrating because I was trying to get a clear understanding of the process for the lifecycle of teh sprint and we are still asking questions. My though was to use todobot and segregate by status - like a kanban board, but we would need more details - here is what I created for Sprint 2 - https://ketchkmproject.workast.io/list/5a95a08132c57672fac2e27a but if you have a better idea let me know
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KetchCyork
commented
6 years ago OK but how do I se that? How do we ensure that every comment that “needs” to become a requirement get created in a Kanban board (note I tried to used todobot for that) somewhere so that we create a backlog of issues to resolve.
Chris York CEO & Principal [Email-Signature-(Yellow-K)]
Ketch 512 Means Street Suite 400 Atlanta, GA 30318 E: cyork@Ketch.partnersmailto:cyork@Ketch.partners S: cyork1963 P: 404-996-0238 O: 224-634-6480 M: 470-351-9194 F: 404-996-0243 W: www.Ketch.Partnershttp://www.ketch.partners/ Visit us on [Linkedin logo3] http://www.linkedin.com/company/intenxus-llc?trk=top_nav_home [cid:image003.gif@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.asug.com/[cid:image004.png@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherryork
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I get it. But I’m telling you to just let me do sprint2. Then you will get it.
Agile is not just doing waterfall within a short set period of tome. It is throwing out planning in the traditional sense and instead focus is on doing the work in a non management way. Study after study shows I am right on this one. And we can even begin to see that as there has been lots of comments already (self motivated go out and figure it out - gave us the most amount of feedback we have received since I started).
Note I have already responded to every comment.
As far as slack - don’t focus on what it does now and instead tell me what are the things you want. Then I will create a custom app to do just that. The idea is again different. You don’t prepackage in a standardized PMO way of doing things and instead let the participants champion that. You use slack as a dynamic things where u create apps to automate stuff where it is needed and you don’t where it doesn’t.
At the end of each day you will get a deliverance burn rate. You can compare that to the timeline for the sprint to get idea of where we are at.
David Beach
From: Chris York notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com> Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 9:05:24 AM To: KetchPartners/kmsprint2 Cc: David Beach; Author Subject: Re: [KetchPartners/kmsprint2] Need to track requirements and changes to requirements using Kanban boards (#6)
This is frustrating because I was trying to get a clear understanding of the process for the lifecycle of teh sprint and we are still asking questions. My though was to use todobot and segregate by status - like a kanban board, but we would need more details - here is what I created for Sprint 2 - https://ketchkmproject.workast.io/list/5a95a08132c57672fac2e27a but if you have a better idea let me know
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davebeach
commented
6 years ago You will. Each morning with the instructions those board cards will appear. You don’t show the entire thing the rule is you show the next tasks at hand. It is a mistake to keep taking away now time for future what if things.
David Beach
From: Chris York notifications@github.com Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 9:38:10 AM To: KetchPartners/kmsprint2 Cc: David Beach; Author Subject: Re: [KetchPartners/kmsprint2] Need to track requirements and changes to requirements using Kanban boards (#6)
OK but how do I se that? How do we ensure that every comment that “needs” to become a requirement get created in a Kanban board (note I tried to used todobot for that) somewhere so that we create a backlog of issues to resolve.
Chris York CEO & Principal [Email-Signature-(Yellow-K)]
Ketch 512 Means Street Suite 400 Atlanta, GA 30318 E: cyork@Ketch.partnersmailto:cyork@Ketch.partners S: cyork1963 P: 404-996-0238 O: 224-634-6480 M: 470-351-9194 F: 404-996-0243 W: www.Ketch.Partnershttp://www.ketch.partners/ Visit us on [Linkedin logo3] http://www.linkedin.com/company/intenxus-llc?trk=top_nav_home [cid:image003.gif@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.asug.com/[cid:image004.png@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherryork
From: David Beach notifications@github.com Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 12:13 PM To: KetchPartners/kmsprint2 kmsprint2@noreply.github.com Cc: Chris York cyork@ketch.partners; Assign assign@noreply.github.com Subject: Re: [KetchPartners/kmsprint2] Need to track requirements and changes to requirements using Kanban boards (#6)
I get it. But I’m telling you to just let me do sprint2. Then you will get it.
Agile is not just doing waterfall within a short set period of tome. It is throwing out planning in the traditional sense and instead focus is on doing the work in a non management way. Study after study shows I am right on this one. And we can even begin to see that as there has been lots of comments already (self motivated go out and figure it out - gave us the most amount of feedback we have received since I started).
Note I have already responded to every comment.
As far as slack - don’t focus on what it does now and instead tell me what are the things you want. Then I will create a custom app to do just that. The idea is again different. You don’t prepackage in a standardized PMO way of doing things and instead let the participants champion that. You use slack as a dynamic things where u create apps to automate stuff where it is needed and you don’t where it doesn’t.
At the end of each day you will get a deliverance burn rate. You can compare that to the timeline for the sprint to get idea of where we are at.
David Beach
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This is frustrating because I was trying to get a clear understanding of the process for the lifecycle of teh sprint and we are still asking questions. My though was to use todobot and segregate by status - like a kanban board, but we would need more details - here is what I created for Sprint 2 - https://ketchkmproject.workast.io/list/5a95a08132c57672fac2e27a but if you have a better idea let me know
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KetchCyork
commented
6 years ago What board cards? Where? What daily meetings? What time? Who attaneds?
Chris York CEO & Principal [Email-Signature-(Yellow-K)]
Ketch 512 Means Street Suite 400 Atlanta, GA 30318 E: cyork@Ketch.partnersmailto:cyork@Ketch.partners S: cyork1963 P: 404-996-0238 O: 224-634-6480 M: 470-351-9194 F: 404-996-0243 W: www.Ketch.Partnershttp://www.ketch.partners/ Visit us on [Linkedin logo3] http://www.linkedin.com/company/intenxus-llc?trk=top_nav_home [cid:image003.gif@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.asug.com/[cid:image004.png@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherryork
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You will. Each morning with the instructions those board cards will appear. You don’t show the entire thing the rule is you show the next tasks at hand. It is a mistake to keep taking away now time for future what if things.
David Beach
From: Chris York notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com> Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 9:38:10 AM To: KetchPartners/kmsprint2 Cc: David Beach; Author Subject: Re: [KetchPartners/kmsprint2] Need to track requirements and changes to requirements using Kanban boards (#6)
OK but how do I se that? How do we ensure that every comment that “needs” to become a requirement get created in a Kanban board (note I tried to used todobot for that) somewhere so that we create a backlog of issues to resolve.
Chris York CEO & Principal [Email-Signature-(Yellow-K)]
Ketch 512 Means Street Suite 400 Atlanta, GA 30318 E: cyork@Ketch.partnersmailto:cyork@Ketch.partners<mailto:cyork@Ketch.partners%3cmailto:cyork@Ketch.partners> S: cyork1963 P: 404-996-0238 O: 224-634-6480 M: 470-351-9194 F: 404-996-0243 W: www.Ketch.Partnershttp://www.ketch.partners/<http://www.Ketch.Partners%3chttp:/www.ketch.partners/> Visit us on [Linkedin logo3] http://www.linkedin.com/company/intenxus-llc?trk=top_nav_home [cid:image003.gif@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.asug.com/[cid:image004.png@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherryork
From: David Beach notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com> Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 12:13 PM To: KetchPartners/kmsprint2 kmsprint2@noreply.github.com<mailto:kmsprint2@noreply.github.com> Cc: Chris York cyork@ketch.partners<mailto:cyork@ketch.partners>; Assign assign@noreply.github.com<mailto:assign@noreply.github.com> Subject: Re: [KetchPartners/kmsprint2] Need to track requirements and changes to requirements using Kanban boards (#6)
I get it. But I’m telling you to just let me do sprint2. Then you will get it.
Agile is not just doing waterfall within a short set period of tome. It is throwing out planning in the traditional sense and instead focus is on doing the work in a non management way. Study after study shows I am right on this one. And we can even begin to see that as there has been lots of comments already (self motivated go out and figure it out - gave us the most amount of feedback we have received since I started).
Note I have already responded to every comment.
As far as slack - don’t focus on what it does now and instead tell me what are the things you want. Then I will create a custom app to do just that. The idea is again different. You don’t prepackage in a standardized PMO way of doing things and instead let the participants champion that. You use slack as a dynamic things where u create apps to automate stuff where it is needed and you don’t where it doesn’t.
At the end of each day you will get a deliverance burn rate. You can compare that to the timeline for the sprint to get idea of where we are at.
David Beach
From: Chris York notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com%3cmailto:notifications@github.com>> Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 9:05:24 AM To: KetchPartners/kmsprint2 Cc: David Beach; Author Subject: Re: [KetchPartners/kmsprint2] Need to track requirements and changes to requirements using Kanban boards (#6)
This is frustrating because I was trying to get a clear understanding of the process for the lifecycle of teh sprint and we are still asking questions. My though was to use todobot and segregate by status - like a kanban board, but we would need more details - here is what I created for Sprint 2 - https://ketchkmproject.workast.io/list/5a95a08132c57672fac2e27a but if you have a better idea let me know
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davebeach
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6 years ago Forget the tools. Tell me on white sheet of paper how a requirement process works. Tell me the workflows
Then I will show you how to go and create exactly that in slack.
A key. Feature. Of agile. Is that the tools are the code that you can use to build what you need. The manager programs the tool!!! And adjusts as required. I’m fact any team member is free to do this.
In modern tech world. You just talk one thing. The workflow process to take a task from idea to delivery.
Start by telling me the attributes we need to tack onrequirement. Also a scoring mechanism for priority. And who needs to approve the requirement. Then we create an app that does exactly that
Each member has a responsibility to improve their workflows. From whatever perspective they see the world at. This is why you get all kinds of tools in open source to do stuff like checking code for errors to auto testing and documentation. You don’t get this by telling them here is process, now do it and report status. That doesn’t work and this project is perfect Test case tha proves that.
David Beach
From: Chris York notifications@github.com Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [KetchPartners/kmsprint2] Need to track requirements and changes to requirements using Kanban boards (#6) To: KetchPartners/kmsprint2 kmsprint2@noreply.github.com Cc: David Beach dbeach@ketch.partners, Author author@noreply.github.com
OK but how do I se that? How do we ensure that every comment that “needs” to become a requirement get created in a Kanban board (note I tried to used todobot for that) somewhere so that we create a backlog of issues to resolve.
Chris York CEO & Principal [Email-Signature-(Yellow-K)]
Ketch 512 Means Street Suite 400 Atlanta, GA 30318 E: cyork@Ketch.partnersmailto:cyork@Ketch.partners S: cyork1963 P: 404-996-0238 O: 224-634-6480 M: 470-351-9194 F: 404-996-0243 W: www.Ketch.Partnershttp://www.ketch.partners/ Visit us on [Linkedin logo3] http://www.linkedin.com/company/intenxus-llc?trk=top_nav_home [cid:image003.gif@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.asug.com/[cid:image004.png@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherryork
From: David Beach notifications@github.com Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 12:13 PM To: KetchPartners/kmsprint2 kmsprint2@noreply.github.com Cc: Chris York cyork@ketch.partners; Assign assign@noreply.github.com Subject: Re: [KetchPartners/kmsprint2] Need to track requirements and changes to requirements using Kanban boards (#6)
I get it. But I’m telling you to just let me do sprint2. Then you will get it.
Agile is not just doing waterfall within a short set period of tome. It is throwing out planning in the traditional sense and instead focus is on doing the work in a non management way. Study after study shows I am right on this one. And we can even begin to see that as there has been lots of comments already (self motivated go out and figure it out - gave us the most amount of feedback we have received since I started).
Note I have already responded to every comment.
As far as slack - don’t focus on what it does now and instead tell me what are the things you want. Then I will create a custom app to do just that. The idea is again different. You don’t prepackage in a standardized PMO way of doing things and instead let the participants champion that. You use slack as a dynamic things where u create apps to automate stuff where it is needed and you don’t where it doesn’t.
At the end of each day you will get a deliverance burn rate. You can compare that to the timeline for the sprint to get idea of where we are at.
David Beach
From: Chris York notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com> Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 9:05:24 AM To: KetchPartners/kmsprint2 Cc: David Beach; Author Subject: Re: [KetchPartners/kmsprint2] Need to track requirements and changes to requirements using Kanban boards (#6)
This is frustrating because I was trying to get a clear understanding of the process for the lifecycle of teh sprint and we are still asking questions. My though was to use todobot and segregate by status - like a kanban board, but we would need more details - here is what I created for Sprint 2 - https://ketchkmproject.workast.io/list/5a95a08132c57672fac2e27a but if you have a better idea let me know
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KetchCyork
commented
6 years ago OK I am starting to get it. Do you want a flow or just step by step decsription
Chris York CEO & Principal [Email-Signature-(Yellow-K)]
Ketch 512 Means Street Suite 400 Atlanta, GA 30318 E: cyork@Ketch.partnersmailto:cyork@Ketch.partners S: cyork1963 P: 404-996-0238 O: 224-634-6480 M: 470-351-9194 F: 404-996-0243 W: www.Ketch.Partnershttp://www.ketch.partners/ Visit us on [Linkedin logo3] http://www.linkedin.com/company/intenxus-llc?trk=top_nav_home [cid:image003.gif@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.asug.com/[cid:image004.png@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherryork
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Forget the tools. Tell me on white sheet of paper how a requirement process works. Tell me the workflows
Then I will show you how to go and create exactly that in slack.
A key. Feature. Of agile. Is that the tools are the code that you can use to build what you need. The manager programs the tool!!! And adjusts as required. I’m fact any team member is free to do this.
In modern tech world. You just talk one thing. The workflow process to take a task from idea to delivery.
Start by telling me the attributes we need to tack onrequirement. Also a scoring mechanism for priority. And who needs to approve the requirement. Then we create an app that does exactly that
Each member has a responsibility to improve their workflows. From whatever perspective they see the world at. This is why you get all kinds of tools in open source to do stuff like checking code for errors to auto testing and documentation. You don’t get this by telling them here is process, now do it and report status. That doesn’t work and this project is perfect Test case tha proves that.
David Beach
From: Chris York notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com> Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [KetchPartners/kmsprint2] Need to track requirements and changes to requirements using Kanban boards (#6) To: KetchPartners/kmsprint2 kmsprint2@noreply.github.com<mailto:kmsprint2@noreply.github.com> Cc: David Beach dbeach@ketch.partners<mailto:dbeach@ketch.partners>, Author author@noreply.github.com<mailto:author@noreply.github.com>
OK but how do I se that? How do we ensure that every comment that “needs” to become a requirement get created in a Kanban board (note I tried to used todobot for that) somewhere so that we create a backlog of issues to resolve.
Chris York CEO & Principal [Email-Signature-(Yellow-K)]
Ketch 512 Means Street Suite 400 Atlanta, GA 30318 E: cyork@Ketch.partnersmailto:cyork@Ketch.partners<mailto:cyork@Ketch.partners%3cmailto:cyork@Ketch.partners> S: cyork1963 P: 404-996-0238 O: 224-634-6480 M: 470-351-9194 F: 404-996-0243 W: www.Ketch.Partnershttp://www.ketch.partners/<http://www.Ketch.Partners%3chttp:/www.ketch.partners/> Visit us on [Linkedin logo3] http://www.linkedin.com/company/intenxus-llc?trk=top_nav_home [cid:image003.gif@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.asug.com/[cid:image004.png@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherryork
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I get it. But I’m telling you to just let me do sprint2. Then you will get it.
Agile is not just doing waterfall within a short set period of tome. It is throwing out planning in the traditional sense and instead focus is on doing the work in a non management way. Study after study shows I am right on this one. And we can even begin to see that as there has been lots of comments already (self motivated go out and figure it out - gave us the most amount of feedback we have received since I started).
Note I have already responded to every comment.
As far as slack - don’t focus on what it does now and instead tell me what are the things you want. Then I will create a custom app to do just that. The idea is again different. You don’t prepackage in a standardized PMO way of doing things and instead let the participants champion that. You use slack as a dynamic things where u create apps to automate stuff where it is needed and you don’t where it doesn’t.
At the end of each day you will get a deliverance burn rate. You can compare that to the timeline for the sprint to get idea of where we are at.
David Beach
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This is frustrating because I was trying to get a clear understanding of the process for the lifecycle of teh sprint and we are still asking questions. My though was to use todobot and segregate by status - like a kanban board, but we would need more details - here is what I created for Sprint 2 - https://ketchkmproject.workast.io/list/5a95a08132c57672fac2e27a but if you have a better idea let me know
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davebeach
commented
6 years ago No rules. Tell me what will name you comfortable And don’t use any computer to do this. Do it with pen and paper
David Beach
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OK I am starting to get it. Do you want a flow or just step by step decsription
Chris York CEO & Principal [Email-Signature-(Yellow-K)]
Ketch 512 Means Street Suite 400 Atlanta, GA 30318 E: cyork@Ketch.partnersmailto:cyork@Ketch.partners S: cyork1963 P: 404-996-0238 O: 224-634-6480 M: 470-351-9194 F: 404-996-0243 W: www.Ketch.Partnershttp://www.ketch.partners/ Visit us on [Linkedin logo3] http://www.linkedin.com/company/intenxus-llc?trk=top_nav_home [cid:image003.gif@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.asug.com/[cid:image004.png@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherryork
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Forget the tools. Tell me on white sheet of paper how a requirement process works. Tell me the workflows
Then I will show you how to go and create exactly that in slack.
A key. Feature. Of agile. Is that the tools are the code that you can use to build what you need. The manager programs the tool!!! And adjusts as required. I’m fact any team member is free to do this.
In modern tech world. You just talk one thing. The workflow process to take a task from idea to delivery.
Start by telling me the attributes we need to tack onrequirement. Also a scoring mechanism for priority. And who needs to approve the requirement. Then we create an app that does exactly that
Each member has a responsibility to improve their workflows. From whatever perspective they see the world at. This is why you get all kinds of tools in open source to do stuff like checking code for errors to auto testing and documentation. You don’t get this by telling them here is process, now do it and report status. That doesn’t work and this project is perfect Test case tha proves that.
David Beach
From: Chris York notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com> Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [KetchPartners/kmsprint2] Need to track requirements and changes to requirements using Kanban boards (#6) To: KetchPartners/kmsprint2 kmsprint2@noreply.github.com<mailto:kmsprint2@noreply.github.com> Cc: David Beach dbeach@ketch.partners<mailto:dbeach@ketch.partners>, Author author@noreply.github.com<mailto:author@noreply.github.com>
OK but how do I se that? How do we ensure that every comment that “needs” to become a requirement get created in a Kanban board (note I tried to used todobot for that) somewhere so that we create a backlog of issues to resolve.
Chris York CEO & Principal [Email-Signature-(Yellow-K)]
Ketch 512 Means Street Suite 400 Atlanta, GA 30318 E: cyork@Ketch.partnersmailto:cyork@Ketch.partners<mailto:cyork@Ketch.partners%3cmailto:cyork@Ketch.partners> S: cyork1963 P: 404-996-0238 O: 224-634-6480 M: 470-351-9194 F: 404-996-0243 W: www.Ketch.Partnershttp://www.ketch.partners/<http://www.Ketch.Partners%3chttp:/www.ketch.partners/> Visit us on [Linkedin logo3] http://www.linkedin.com/company/intenxus-llc?trk=top_nav_home [cid:image003.gif@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.asug.com/[cid:image004.png@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherryork
From: David Beach notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com> Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 12:13 PM To: KetchPartners/kmsprint2 kmsprint2@noreply.github.com<mailto:kmsprint2@noreply.github.com> Cc: Chris York cyork@ketch.partners<mailto:cyork@ketch.partners>; Assign assign@noreply.github.com<mailto:assign@noreply.github.com> Subject: Re: [KetchPartners/kmsprint2] Need to track requirements and changes to requirements using Kanban boards (#6)
I get it. But I’m telling you to just let me do sprint2. Then you will get it.
Agile is not just doing waterfall within a short set period of tome. It is throwing out planning in the traditional sense and instead focus is on doing the work in a non management way. Study after study shows I am right on this one. And we can even begin to see that as there has been lots of comments already (self motivated go out and figure it out - gave us the most amount of feedback we have received since I started).
Note I have already responded to every comment.
As far as slack - don’t focus on what it does now and instead tell me what are the things you want. Then I will create a custom app to do just that. The idea is again different. You don’t prepackage in a standardized PMO way of doing things and instead let the participants champion that. You use slack as a dynamic things where u create apps to automate stuff where it is needed and you don’t where it doesn’t.
At the end of each day you will get a deliverance burn rate. You can compare that to the timeline for the sprint to get idea of where we are at.
David Beach
From: Chris York notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com%3cmailto:notifications@github.com>> Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 9:05:24 AM To: KetchPartners/kmsprint2 Cc: David Beach; Author Subject: Re: [KetchPartners/kmsprint2] Need to track requirements and changes to requirements using Kanban boards (#6)
This is frustrating because I was trying to get a clear understanding of the process for the lifecycle of teh sprint and we are still asking questions. My though was to use todobot and segregate by status - like a kanban board, but we would need more details - here is what I created for Sprint 2 - https://ketchkmproject.workast.io/list/5a95a08132c57672fac2e27a but if you have a better idea let me know
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KetchCyork
commented
6 years ago What?? No computer? What is that like LOL?
Chris York CEO & Principal [Email-Signature-(Yellow-K)]
Ketch 512 Means Street Suite 400 Atlanta, GA 30318 E: cyork@Ketch.partnersmailto:cyork@Ketch.partners S: cyork1963 P: 404-996-0238 O: 224-634-6480 M: 470-351-9194 F: 404-996-0243 W: www.Ketch.Partnershttp://www.ketch.partners/ Visit us on [Linkedin logo3] http://www.linkedin.com/company/intenxus-llc?trk=top_nav_home [cid:image003.gif@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.asug.com/[cid:image004.png@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherryork
From: David Beach notifications@github.com Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 12:57 PM To: KetchPartners/kmsprint2 kmsprint2@noreply.github.com Cc: Chris York cyork@ketch.partners; Assign assign@noreply.github.com Subject: Re: [KetchPartners/kmsprint2] Need to track requirements and changes to requirements using Kanban boards (#6)
No rules. Tell me what will name you comfortable And don’t use any computer to do this. Do it with pen and paper
David Beach
From: Chris York notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com> Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 9:52:37 AM To: KetchPartners/kmsprint2 Cc: David Beach; Author Subject: Re: [KetchPartners/kmsprint2] Need to track requirements and changes to requirements using Kanban boards (#6)
OK I am starting to get it. Do you want a flow or just step by step decsription
Chris York CEO & Principal [Email-Signature-(Yellow-K)]
Ketch 512 Means Street Suite 400 Atlanta, GA 30318 E: cyork@Ketch.partnersmailto:cyork@Ketch.partners<mailto:cyork@Ketch.partners%3cmailto:cyork@Ketch.partners> S: cyork1963 P: 404-996-0238 O: 224-634-6480 M: 470-351-9194 F: 404-996-0243 W: www.Ketch.Partnershttp://www.ketch.partners/<http://www.Ketch.Partners%3chttp:/www.ketch.partners/> Visit us on [Linkedin logo3] http://www.linkedin.com/company/intenxus-llc?trk=top_nav_home [cid:image003.gif@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.asug.com/[cid:image004.png@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherryork
From: David Beach notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com> Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 12:48 PM To: KetchPartners/kmsprint2 kmsprint2@noreply.github.com<mailto:kmsprint2@noreply.github.com> Cc: Chris York cyork@ketch.partners<mailto:cyork@ketch.partners>; Assign assign@noreply.github.com<mailto:assign@noreply.github.com> Subject: Re: [KetchPartners/kmsprint2] Need to track requirements and changes to requirements using Kanban boards (#6)
Forget the tools. Tell me on white sheet of paper how a requirement process works. Tell me the workflows
Then I will show you how to go and create exactly that in slack.
A key. Feature. Of agile. Is that the tools are the code that you can use to build what you need. The manager programs the tool!!! And adjusts as required. I’m fact any team member is free to do this.
In modern tech world. You just talk one thing. The workflow process to take a task from idea to delivery.
Start by telling me the attributes we need to tack onrequirement. Also a scoring mechanism for priority. And who needs to approve the requirement. Then we create an app that does exactly that
Each member has a responsibility to improve their workflows. From whatever perspective they see the world at. This is why you get all kinds of tools in open source to do stuff like checking code for errors to auto testing and documentation. You don’t get this by telling them here is process, now do it and report status. That doesn’t work and this project is perfect Test case tha proves that.
David Beach
From: Chris York notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com%3cmailto:notifications@github.com>> Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [KetchPartners/kmsprint2] Need to track requirements and changes to requirements using Kanban boards (#6) To: KetchPartners/kmsprint2 kmsprint2@noreply.github.com<mailto:kmsprint2@noreply.github.com<mailto:kmsprint2@noreply.github.com%3cmailto:kmsprint2@noreply.github.com>> Cc: David Beach dbeach@ketch.partners<mailto:dbeach@ketch.partners<mailto:dbeach@ketch.partners%3cmailto:dbeach@ketch.partners>>, Author author@noreply.github.com<mailto:author@noreply.github.com<mailto:author@noreply.github.com%3cmailto:author@noreply.github.com>>
OK but how do I se that? How do we ensure that every comment that “needs” to become a requirement get created in a Kanban board (note I tried to used todobot for that) somewhere so that we create a backlog of issues to resolve.
Chris York CEO & Principal [Email-Signature-(Yellow-K)]
Ketch 512 Means Street Suite 400 Atlanta, GA 30318 E: cyork@Ketch.partnersmailto:cyork@Ketch.partners<mailto:cyork@Ketch.partners%3cmailto:cyork@Ketch.partners<mailto:cyork@Ketch.partners%3cmailto:cyork@Ketch.partners%3cmailto:cyork@Ketch.partners%3cmailto:cyork@Ketch.partners>> S: cyork1963 P: 404-996-0238 O: 224-634-6480 M: 470-351-9194 F: 404-996-0243 W: www.Ketch.Partnershttp://www.ketch.partners/<http://www.Ketch.Partners%3chttp:/www.ketch.partners/<http://www.Ketch.Partners%3chttp:/www.ketch.partners/%3chttp:/www.Ketch.Partners%3chttp:/www.ketch.partners/>> Visit us on [Linkedin logo3] http://www.linkedin.com/company/intenxus-llc?trk=top_nav_home [cid:image003.gif@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.asug.com/[cid:image004.png@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherryork
From: David Beach notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com%3cmailto:notifications@github.com>> Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 12:13 PM To: KetchPartners/kmsprint2 kmsprint2@noreply.github.com<mailto:kmsprint2@noreply.github.com<mailto:kmsprint2@noreply.github.com%3cmailto:kmsprint2@noreply.github.com>> Cc: Chris York cyork@ketch.partners<mailto:cyork@ketch.partners<mailto:cyork@ketch.partners%3cmailto:cyork@ketch.partners>>; Assign assign@noreply.github.com<mailto:assign@noreply.github.com<mailto:assign@noreply.github.com%3cmailto:assign@noreply.github.com>> Subject: Re: [KetchPartners/kmsprint2] Need to track requirements and changes to requirements using Kanban boards (#6)
I get it. But I’m telling you to just let me do sprint2. Then you will get it.
Agile is not just doing waterfall within a short set period of tome. It is throwing out planning in the traditional sense and instead focus is on doing the work in a non management way. Study after study shows I am right on this one. And we can even begin to see that as there has been lots of comments already (self motivated go out and figure it out - gave us the most amount of feedback we have received since I started).
Note I have already responded to every comment.
As far as slack - don’t focus on what it does now and instead tell me what are the things you want. Then I will create a custom app to do just that. The idea is again different. You don’t prepackage in a standardized PMO way of doing things and instead let the participants champion that. You use slack as a dynamic things where u create apps to automate stuff where it is needed and you don’t where it doesn’t.
At the end of each day you will get a deliverance burn rate. You can compare that to the timeline for the sprint to get idea of where we are at.
David Beach
From: Chris York notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com%3cmailto:notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com%3cmailto:notifications@github.com%3cmailto:notifications@github.com%3cmailto:notifications@github.com>>> Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 9:05:24 AM To: KetchPartners/kmsprint2 Cc: David Beach; Author Subject: Re: [KetchPartners/kmsprint2] Need to track requirements and changes to requirements using Kanban boards (#6)
This is frustrating because I was trying to get a clear understanding of the process for the lifecycle of teh sprint and we are still asking questions. My though was to use todobot and segregate by status - like a kanban board, but we would need more details - here is what I created for Sprint 2 - https://ketchkmproject.workast.io/list/5a95a08132c57672fac2e27a but if you have a better idea let me know
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davebeach
commented
6 years ago That is the point. That is what is nice about knowing how to use an API. You can get it to do what you want. Rather trying to fit it into what you think.
David Beach
From: Chris York notifications@github.com Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 10:22:04 AM To: KetchPartners/kmsprint2 Cc: David Beach; Author Subject: Re: [KetchPartners/kmsprint2] Need to track requirements and changes to requirements using Kanban boards (#6)
What?? No computer? What is that like LOL?
Chris York CEO & Principal [Email-Signature-(Yellow-K)]
Ketch 512 Means Street Suite 400 Atlanta, GA 30318 E: cyork@Ketch.partnersmailto:cyork@Ketch.partners S: cyork1963 P: 404-996-0238 O: 224-634-6480 M: 470-351-9194 F: 404-996-0243 W: www.Ketch.Partnershttp://www.ketch.partners/ Visit us on [Linkedin logo3] http://www.linkedin.com/company/intenxus-llc?trk=top_nav_home [cid:image003.gif@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.asug.com/[cid:image004.png@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherryork
From: David Beach notifications@github.com Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 12:57 PM To: KetchPartners/kmsprint2 kmsprint2@noreply.github.com Cc: Chris York cyork@ketch.partners; Assign assign@noreply.github.com Subject: Re: [KetchPartners/kmsprint2] Need to track requirements and changes to requirements using Kanban boards (#6)
No rules. Tell me what will name you comfortable And don’t use any computer to do this. Do it with pen and paper
David Beach
From: Chris York notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com> Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 9:52:37 AM To: KetchPartners/kmsprint2 Cc: David Beach; Author Subject: Re: [KetchPartners/kmsprint2] Need to track requirements and changes to requirements using Kanban boards (#6)
OK I am starting to get it. Do you want a flow or just step by step decsription
Chris York CEO & Principal [Email-Signature-(Yellow-K)]
Ketch 512 Means Street Suite 400 Atlanta, GA 30318 E: cyork@Ketch.partnersmailto:cyork@Ketch.partners<mailto:cyork@Ketch.partners%3cmailto:cyork@Ketch.partners> S: cyork1963 P: 404-996-0238 O: 224-634-6480 M: 470-351-9194 F: 404-996-0243 W: www.Ketch.Partnershttp://www.ketch.partners/<http://www.Ketch.Partners%3chttp:/www.ketch.partners/> Visit us on [Linkedin logo3] http://www.linkedin.com/company/intenxus-llc?trk=top_nav_home [cid:image003.gif@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.asug.com/[cid:image004.png@01CE2F94.3B063190]http://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherryork
From: David Beach notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com> Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 12:48 PM To: KetchPartners/kmsprint2 kmsprint2@noreply.github.com<mailto:kmsprint2@noreply.github.com> Cc: Chris York cyork@ketch.partners<mailto:cyork@ketch.partners>; Assign assign@noreply.github.com<mailto:assign@noreply.github.com> Subject: Re: [KetchPartners/kmsprint2] Need to track requirements and changes to requirements using Kanban boards (#6)
Forget the tools. Tell me on white sheet of paper how a requirement process works. Tell me the workflows
Then I will show you how to go and create exactly that in slack.
A key. Feature. Of agile. Is that the tools are the code that you can use to build what you need. The manager programs the tool!!! And adjusts as required. I’m fact any team member is free to do this.
In modern tech world. You just talk one thing. The workflow process to take a task from idea to delivery.
Start by telling me the attributes we need to tack onrequirement. Also a scoring mechanism for priority. And who needs to approve the requirement. Then we create an app that does exactly that
Each member has a responsibility to improve their workflows. From whatever perspective they see the world at. This is why you get all kinds of tools in open source to do stuff like checking code for errors to auto testing and documentation. You don’t get this by telling them here is process, now do it and report status. That doesn’t work and this project is perfect Test case tha proves that.
David Beach
From: Chris York notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com%3cmailto:notifications@github.com>> Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [KetchPartners/kmsprint2] Need to track requirements and changes to requirements using Kanban boards (#6) To: KetchPartners/kmsprint2 kmsprint2@noreply.github.com<mailto:kmsprint2@noreply.github.com<mailto:kmsprint2@noreply.github.com%3cmailto:kmsprint2@noreply.github.com>> Cc: David Beach dbeach@ketch.partners<mailto:dbeach@ketch.partners<mailto:dbeach@ketch.partners%3cmailto:dbeach@ketch.partners>>, Author author@noreply.github.com<mailto:author@noreply.github.com<mailto:author@noreply.github.com%3cmailto:author@noreply.github.com>>
OK but how do I se that? How do we ensure that every comment that “needs” to become a requirement get created in a Kanban board (note I tried to used todobot for that) somewhere so that we create a backlog of issues to resolve.
Chris York CEO & Principal [Email-Signature-(Yellow-K)]
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From: David Beach notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com%3cmailto:notifications@github.com>> Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 12:13 PM To: KetchPartners/kmsprint2 kmsprint2@noreply.github.com<mailto:kmsprint2@noreply.github.com<mailto:kmsprint2@noreply.github.com%3cmailto:kmsprint2@noreply.github.com>> Cc: Chris York cyork@ketch.partners<mailto:cyork@ketch.partners<mailto:cyork@ketch.partners%3cmailto:cyork@ketch.partners>>; Assign assign@noreply.github.com<mailto:assign@noreply.github.com<mailto:assign@noreply.github.com%3cmailto:assign@noreply.github.com>> Subject: Re: [KetchPartners/kmsprint2] Need to track requirements and changes to requirements using Kanban boards (#6)
I get it. But I’m telling you to just let me do sprint2. Then you will get it.
Agile is not just doing waterfall within a short set period of tome. It is throwing out planning in the traditional sense and instead focus is on doing the work in a non management way. Study after study shows I am right on this one. And we can even begin to see that as there has been lots of comments already (self motivated go out and figure it out - gave us the most amount of feedback we have received since I started).
Note I have already responded to every comment.
As far as slack - don’t focus on what it does now and instead tell me what are the things you want. Then I will create a custom app to do just that. The idea is again different. You don’t prepackage in a standardized PMO way of doing things and instead let the participants champion that. You use slack as a dynamic things where u create apps to automate stuff where it is needed and you don’t where it doesn’t.
At the end of each day you will get a deliverance burn rate. You can compare that to the timeline for the sprint to get idea of where we are at.
David Beach
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This is frustrating because I was trying to get a clear understanding of the process for the lifecycle of teh sprint and we are still asking questions. My though was to use todobot and segregate by status - like a kanban board, but we would need more details - here is what I created for Sprint 2 - https://ketchkmproject.workast.io/list/5a95a08132c57672fac2e27a but if you have a better idea let me know
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davebeach
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6 years ago Set up the open source Taiga project to do the kanban boards. you can sign up for a Taiga account, and request
Requirement Sources:
For Each Requirement we need:
For Sprint 2 - what is the initial sprint 2 planned requirements to complete.