Open alexadam16 opened 5 years ago
There's one thing I need to confirm:
What about the length of the video?
Thank you for your fast feedback. I think it would be best to have option 2 because the video should be as small as possible for archiving.
I tried to put together a feature request on the ShareX thread along these lines. The dev didn't seem too interested, but maybe it will give you some ideas about how to implement this one on Captura: https://github.com/ShareX/ShareX/issues/2735
@MathewSachin Why is it removed from v8.1.0 milestone? Is it not possible? Can I help?
@alexadam16, I had decided to jump to v9.0.0 instead of v8.1.0. You don't need to worry :smile:.
I could implement what @vatterspun has suggested and it seems quite relevant. Please have a look at it. The output will then be in the form of a set of screenshots and audio will not be recorded.
The only problem I'm facing is how to adapt this into the current UI. I can do it for the console version without much problems like I did for the capture last n seconds feature.
Oh this sound good. I think there is no great difference between the proposel of @vatterspun and my idea. But I think when a screenshot is taken for every change this is to much for seperate files. A video file with only the movements would be better. Audio is not important and I think it makes no sense.
The console version would be okay but perhaps you can integrate a checkbox in the settings "Only record changes". When it is selected, only changes in the screen are recorded and put together in one video.
Thank you!
When making video, a problem I am facing is what should be the FPS of the video.
First, thanks for considering the idea.
When making video, a problem I am facing is what should be the FPS of the video.
I don't have a good answer here, but maybe I can give a bad answer will help...
Recordings when only a small thing has changed are a bit dull if there are long breaks between recordings. Picture a menu being clicked on followed by a selection in the sub-menu. It looks like an early video game that's struggling with a slow processor. In that case, I'd say roughly one frame per 0.75 seconds to maintain the activity.
When you watch videos with major changes - such as a full screen interface change - you want to give the eye a little more time to see everything that's going on and to adjust. So those frames should be a little longer. I'd say roughly 2 seconds.
You could handle medium changes by analyzing the difference between frames and adjusting by percentages. So a frame that changes a lot but not totally might take 1.5 seconds.
Additionally, you might also do a soft fade between changes to give an illusion of animation. A lot of PowerPoint-based animations do this.
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I realize this is a complex problem -- I'll try to spend some time on the topic and try to think of how this might get managed.
I think it is hard to have fixed values for the FPS. Perhaps it would be possible to have a new option where the user can choose the speed (FPS). Playback apps mostly have the possibility to slow down or accelerate a video so I think anybody can change the playback speed later viewing the video. So a fixed value could also be okay.
The output will then be in the form of a set of screenshots and audio will not be recorded.
So are you looking to do an output of video or of sequential screenshots? It's worth noting that a video who's contents don't change much will compress much smaller than a video where every frame is different. I'd say most screen recordings could have 50% of their current frames and have it be perfectly clear what's happening.
Regardless, if you just output to pure images (no video), that's still extremely useful. I could use for at least a dozen different things, including testing, writing documentation, how-to files, bug reports, etc.
Some other possible "only record changes" ideas:
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Key combinations would make sense as a single frame, e.g. CTRL+SHIFT+V, SHIFT+Left click
Drag and drop operations might be shown with a series of frames or an arrow / drawn path shown behind the mouse.
Click-and-hold is probably the hardest to explain in a visual way. Maybe just "click and hold left button"?
I can mock these up if that's helpful. Also, I recognize the logic behind creating any of these is complex and probably more than you want to dig into, but some ideas.
@vatterspun: I think this is a little bit too complex. I just thought of a video which is missing all frames with no changes. I think this is much easier and this is why I would suggest a solution in this direction.
I think this is a little bit too complex.
Easily possible. I've spent a lot of time on the topic and may be overdoing it.
@vatterspun @alexadam16 Thank you for your suggestions.
I've started implementing based on what @vatterspun has suggested. I'm still working on it and it's not done yet. Please have a look and let me know.
Here's the dev build to test: https://ci.appveyor.com/api/buildjobs/s1gapypw8ic0flt1/artifacts/Captura-Portable.zip
You can view the progress on #391.
Thank you. I found the "Steps Recorder" Option and tried it. The videos are really short even when I choice slow playback all changes in the video are really fast. Perhaps you can slow it down a little bit or integrate a speed option behind "Steps Recorder" But it's on a really good way ;-)
I'll add a separate option for controlling speed later. For now, try setting the FPS to a small value like 1.
Edit: Also, try recording with SharpAvi
if you face problems with FFmpeg
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You can view the progress on #391.
This is really exciting, thank you. I've got an unusually full week ahead of me but will do my best to test it and get back to you before the end of the month.
@alexadam16 @vatterspun I've made more progress on this feature. Here is the latest build for testing: https://ci.appveyor.com/api/buildjobs/x2cs275bant9p94x/artifacts/Captura-Portable.zip
Steps mode is now enabled from Main page. There is an option to export as either Video (avi) or Set of images (png).
The options look great but I have a problem using it. After a short time (about 30 secounds). Captura closes without any error.
@alexadam16 I'll take a look into the problem in a week. I'm currently busy with my exams. Thank you for your patience.
I finally got a free night and was very excited to test this ...
Setup: Win7x86 machine
Steps:
Results:
Yellow arrow appears for drag-and-drop operation:
This is fine and honestly better than any other tool I've tested on this topic. How click-and-drag is handled by step recording tools is (from what I've seen): they don't. I'd like to be able to customize the color but this is amazing.
Showing the mouse scroll functionality was maybe the most impressive part. I think only Flashback Recorder (I don't recommend the program for a long list of reasons) showed that in the overlay.
Issues:
An odd yellow circle appears where the mouse was with the number 2 present. This seemed to happen after finishing a drag operation.
Video output still has the yellow circles / arrows but in sequence. So far looks very promising.
Wishlist:
Thank you again for your hard work on this and good luck with your exams! :)
Hey I've seen a few items in my Github notifications about this but didn't know if there was anything additional to test. Is there something new you need feedback on?
Umm... I was working on integrating this feature with the other features I was working on. It's not really at a point for further testing. I'll let you know when I make testable progress on this.
I'll let you know when I make testable progress on this.
Cool, thanks
Hey I saw over on the https://github.com/MathewSachin/Captura/pull/391 post that there's been a fair amount of activity over the past year. Is there something I could assist with in terms of testing? Did you need feedback or is this still in the early stages?
Hi,
at first thank you for that great app! It is really helpfull and has a perfect user interface. I have a possible feature request: It would be really nice to have an option to only record the screen/app when there are any changes. With this option it would be possible to make a small-size clip with all what was done.
Thank you!
Best regards alexadam16