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Help needed with Smart Car EV BMS #19

Closed vioilio closed 4 years ago

vioilio commented 6 years ago

Hello. My Smart Car EV Electric is giving me codes stored in the BMS: P1D799A - HV battery contactor open due release fault. Ops condition not met.

U01A200, U01A100 and U01A000 - lack of CAN communication with internal control unit with A, B and C cells respectively.

P1614FA -Control unit internal fault initialization unsuccessful.

Car was involved in an accident and airbags were deployed. We have fixed everything but those errors wont clear. Can you please help?

minorukurata commented 5 years ago

@vioilio I received another smart fortwo electric 2013 with same errors, I found the WHOLE HV battery Pack at 21V, module 1 (31S) has a lot of cell doest up voltage, module 2 (31s) also, only module 3 is charging upto 120VDC, I found with 0 v a lot of cell how did u do for charging ?

minorukurata commented 5 years ago

@vioilio @MyLab-odyssey I found something rare, when I measure with multimeter each cell are at 3.99 - 4.07v max but when I scan with the board shows me diferent voltage

I got another car with whole sensor A B and C intact, and welderd into my pack because the pack in the car I took the sensor had a lot of Cell damaged more than 20 so I decided to use the sensor into my battery. I found that the measuring voltage from the BMS (scanner) MB star or Launch is more diffent that measuring with multimeter. some mechanica in spain with experience told me is because the Delta volt is too high the battery can balance itself, and I have to discharge down below 5% and charge again

;mV ;As/10

01;4048;18078 02;3835;18049 03;3991;17588 04;3837;17532 05;4011;17616 06;3837;18228 07;4057;17758 08;3772;18228 09;3984;18049 10;3772;18138 11;4019;18168 12;3819;18138 13;3982;17644 14;3818;17588 15;4013;17560 16;3823;18198 17;3988;18258 18;3818;17701 19;4013;18019 20;3817;18019 21;4002;18019 22;3791;17532 23;3998;18049 24;3792;17729 25;4017;17701 26;3787;17588 27;4007;17701 28;3732;17588 29;3997;17532 30;3770;17729 31;4038;17729 32;3963;18078 33;3852;18318 34;3973;18288 35;3847;18108 36;3990;17787 37;3848;18318 38;4019;17990 39;3859;18019 40;3922;18108 41;3857;18168 42;3947;17990 43;3859;17560 44;3961;17504 45;3859;18138 46;3952;18198 47;3859;17673 48;4008;17532 49;3856;17532 50;3971;17644 51;3856;17644 52;3964;18108 53;3856;18198 54;4003;17644 55;3855;17532 56;3973;18019 57;3854;17729 58;3984;17931 59;3854;17616 60;3966;18288 61;3858;18410 62;4029;17729 63;3995;18168 64;3861;18138 65;4027;18318 66;3864;18198 67;3964;18198 68;3864;18787 69;3973;18318 70;3862;18258 71;3974;18258 72;3863;18108 73;4065;18108 74;3862;18108 75;3991;18138 76;3861;18318 77;3964;18138 78;3856;18659 79;4005;18288 80;3857;18198 81;3988;18078 82;3860;18198 83;4043;18078 84;3859;18441 85;3987;18288 86;3856;18108 87;4019;18288 88;3859;18228 89;4031;18228 90;3859;18228 91;3986;18198 92;3857;18503 93;3986;18228

Individual Cell Statistics:

CV mean : 3920 mV, dV= 333 mV, s= 84.07 mV CV min : 3732 mV, # 28 CV max : 4065 mV, # 73

CAP mean: 18011 As/10, 50.0 Ah CAP min : 17504 As/10, 48.6 Ah, # 44 CAP max : 18787 As/10, 52.2 Ah, # 68

Im very fustrating becuase to get parts of smart Electric is so so so hard .. if you can get me a hand with this

regards

tbnz21 commented 5 years ago

Anyone found solutions for sensor A , I am facing the same code with my fortwo smart , and i didn’t find the sensor in dealership, Can anyone help !! 😥 @MyLab-odyssey @minorukurata @fxmatar ??!

minorukurata commented 5 years ago

I got another smart ed and took off the whole sensor A, B and C, I gave me the same error. Im really dont know what to do... I already balaced the whole pack to 4.0v

minorukurata commented 5 years ago

@tbnz21 Im 99.9% is not the sensor I changed a lot even with another smart never touched with a lot of bad cell I welded carefuly but still that error

minorukurata commented 5 years ago

@MyLab-odyssey how can I contact with your friend Sonny Dahunsi. ? I want to know about an error Im having.

tbnz21 commented 5 years ago

I solved it, I have replaced sensor in the battery with another one , bring it from other smart , and my smart works, But how can i put photo here to show you the sensor photo? @minorukata

minorukurata commented 5 years ago

@tbnz21 can you share me at minorukun@gmail.com please. I will put the sensor I got WhatsApp Image 2019-03-22 at 11 20 04 AM

minorukurata commented 5 years ago

@tbnz21 and another thing wich one is the sensor A, I dont know exactly IMG_20180308_124321

tbnz21 commented 5 years ago

This is its location

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minorukurata commented 5 years ago

@tbnz21 thanks to Tariq he discovered that the sensor A from Fiat 500e is valid also working WhatsApp Image 2019-05-02 at 8 10 50 AM this sensor is broken in both of my batteries, Im finding out replacement

minorukurata commented 5 years ago

according to @tb WhatsApp Image 2019-05-02 at 9 22 34 AM nz21 is alos tried different sensor from 12v batteries uses in honda, but this sensor doesnt work on smart

tbnz21 commented 5 years ago

Yes The numbers H.W and S.W is important to know if the sensor is working with smart battery
This is my e-mail : tariq.ziad84@gmail.com

dwlimf commented 5 years ago

Just bought at auction 2013 Smart ED with 20k. From the pictures HV battery is dead and they jumped the 12 to get the dash to show the miles. I called the battery assurance number and the extremely helpful lady informed me of the following. -The car was actually a second owner lease return. -It was just returned to the dealer last month the end of May. -The previous owner did have and maintain the battery warranty. -As what she shows the car is eligible for the warranty to be continued @$80 per month. -The previous owner did keep up with the scheduled maintenance so if it ever needed a HV battery it would be eligible (if I chose to continue it that is). -Battery maintenance and service was just done at the dealer in March of this year.

The car is 1200 miles away and I am working on transport seems there is a chance I will get it by Monday.

Out of curiosity I asked if I don't pay for the warranty what happens does MB disable the battery as I have read. She said no they cannot do that you are just out of luck for service and warranty.

My main questions that I cannot see to find conclusive answers to is:

-If the HV is totally dead will it take a charge (seems only a few weeks it would have been dead just at the auction). -When I get the car what steps should I take when I get the car to have the best chance to get it going again.

She did note that if the battery was run all the way dead and or does not charge that even if I take the battery plan @$80pm they still most likely will not honor the replacement due to running dead is abuse. She said it is really up to the dealer but there is no guarantee.

Just looking for a starting point as there is a lot of conflicting info out there and this thread seems to have some knowledgeable ppl.

Thanks in advance!

fredoo5 commented 5 years ago

I have a 2014 smart electric does anybody have a cse board thats good out of a battery

tbnz21 commented 5 years ago

@fredoo5 Hello Yes i have Contact with me Tariq.ziad84@gmail.com Regards

415mike commented 5 years ago

@tbnz21 thanks to Tariq he discovered that the sensor A from Fiat 500e is valid also working WhatsApp Image 2019-05-02 at 8 10 50 AM this sensor is broken in both of my batteries, Im finding out replacement

Hi, I am new here and found this information very helpful. I too have a Smart Car E with the same error codes, and have also sent the BMS out to get repaired. I wanted to know if someone can tell me where I maybe able to purchase the Fiat 500 Sensor. And where exactly is that sensor located?

thank you

amexsus commented 4 years ago

Hello Guys, good job! This battery pack and the BMS modul are mistake for me... My Smart have in the BMS 18 fault codes and can not understand where is the problem and have sold is as not working for parts before year. Now want to ask any of you whether there is or sell this current sensor for this battery pack (whether healthy or defective) - I need it to study for study purposes to connect it to my can analyzer and to check the can massage and protocols if I can understand it. Of course I will pay for it and for the shipping cost.

Best regards

minorukurata commented 4 years ago

hi I have both healthy and bad sensor

El lun., 2 dic. 2019 a las 8:18, amexsus (notifications@github.com) escribió:

Hello Guys, good job! This battery pack and the BMS modul are mistake for me... My Smart have in the BMS 18 fault codes and can not understand where is the problem and have sold is as not working for parts before year. Now want to ask any of you whether there is or sell this current sensor for this battery pack (whether healthy or defective) - I need it to study for study purposes to connect it to my can analyzer and to check the can massage and protocols if I can understand it. Of course I will pay for it and for the shipping cost.

Best regards

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amexsus commented 4 years ago

Please write me at: carcomdata gmail com

hi I have both healthy and bad sensor El lun., 2 dic. 2019 a las 8:18, amexsus (notifications@github.com) escribió: Hello Guys, good job! This battery pack and the BMS modul are mistake for me... My Smart have in the BMS 18 fault codes and can not understand where is the problem and have sold is as not working for parts before year. Now want to ask any of you whether there is or sell this current sensor for this battery pack (whether healthy or defective) - I need it to study for study purposes to connect it to my can analyzer and to check the can massage and protocols if I can understand it. Of course I will pay for it and for the shipping cost. Best regards — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#19?email_source=notifications&email_token=AFAWBKE2JMQXNSHLGNEMQ7TQWTVIRA5CNFSM4FVXE7S2YY3PNVWWK3TUL52HS4DFVREXG43VMVBW63LNMVXHJKTDN5WW2ZLOORPWSZGOEFTE4EI#issuecomment-560352785>, or unsubscribe https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AFAWBKB7KE2FTFSM2ZVG6O3QWTVIRANCNFSM4FVXE7SQ .

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kjonestob commented 4 years ago

Hello. My Smart Car EV Electric is giving me codes stored in the BMS: P1D799A - HV battery contactor open due release fault. Ops condition not met.

U01A200, U01A100 and U01A000 - lack of CAN communication with internal control unit with A, B and C cells respectively.

P1614FA -Control unit internal fault initialization unsuccessful.

Car was involved in an accident and airbags were deployed. We have fixed everything but those errors wont clear. Can you please help?

What kind of reader did you use? My launch Creader 619 can’t seem to read the codes.

dkraft commented 4 years ago

I would like very much to know what software / reader is being used:

tbnz21 commented 4 years ago

Yes I can help you Contact with me on whatsapp: 00962797226432

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 9:05 PM kjonestob notifications@github.com wrote:

Hello. My Smart Car EV Electric is giving me codes stored in the BMS: P1D799A - HV battery contactor open due release fault. Ops condition not met.

U01A200, U01A100 and U01A000 - lack of CAN communication with internal control unit with A, B and C cells respectively.

P1614FA -Control unit internal fault initialization unsuccessful.

Car was involved in an accident and airbags were deployed. We have fixed everything but those errors wont clear. Can you please help?

What kind of reader did you use? My launch Creader 619 can’t seem to read the codes.

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DavidTypesIt commented 4 years ago

Yes I can help you Contact with me on whatsapp: 00962797226432 On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 9:05 PM kjonestob @.**> wrote: Hello. My Smart Car EV Electric is giving me codes stored in the BMS: P1D799A - HV battery contactor open due release fault. Ops condition not met. U01A200, U01A100 and U01A000 - lack of CAN communication with internal control unit with A, B and C cells respectively. P1614FA -Control unit internal fault initialization unsuccessful. Car was involved in an accident and airbags were deployed. We have fixed everything but those errors wont clear. Can you please help? What kind of reader did you use? My launch Creader 619 can’t seem to read the codes. — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#19?email_source=notifications&email_token=AL5XXQSMRJEKZUTUSVF6I2TQZPAYLA5CNFSM4FVXE7S2YY3PNVWWK3TUL52HS4DFVREXG43VMVBW63LNMVXHJKTDN5WW2ZLOORPWSZGOEHKTKDY#issuecomment-567620879>, or unsubscribe https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AL5XXQRRDP4HGKZKTSOXNV3QZPAYLANCNFSM4FVXE7SQ . -- eng. Tariq Ziad Abu alhommos High Voltage Service Center for ev and hybrid cars service Amman- Tabarbour - al shaheed str. - building 342 0797226432 0790862348 062009970*

Hey there, Read entire thread... I have a 2014 Bricked ED... I am a systems engineer for nearly 30 years.

Car was not in crash...

My Codes are:

P1614FA --"Control unit: internal fault initialization was unsuccessful." And: U01A000 --"CAN communication with the internal control unit for monitoring the battery cells (A) is faulty." U01A100 --"CAN communication with the internal control unit for monitoring the battery cells (B) is faulty." U01A200 --"CAN communication with the internal control unit for monitoring the battery cells (C) is faulty."

12v died but is recharged & new, but HV is bricked.

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Let me know what you can do to help & email me your contact info also.

Thanks,

David.

amexsus commented 4 years ago

Hello all, I'm in searching of not working current sensors fro smart fortwo with boach part number 0199200027. I need the not working sensors for out of curiosity and for research purposes to find out how it works. If you have not working current sensors pelase write me. Thank you in advance!

amexsus commented 4 years ago

hi I have both healthy and bad sensor El lun., 2 dic. 2019 a las 8:18, amexsus (notifications@github.com) escribió: Hello Guys, good job! This battery pack and the BMS modul are mistake for me... My Smart have in the BMS 18 fault codes and can not understand where is the problem and have sold is as not working for parts before year. Now want to ask any of you whether there is or sell this current sensor for this battery pack (whether healthy or defective) - I need it to study for study purposes to connect it to my can analyzer and to check the can massage and protocols if I can understand it. Of course I will pay for it and for the shipping cost. Best regards — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#19?email_source=notifications&email_token=AFAWBKE2JMQXNSHLGNEMQ7TQWTVIRA5CNFSM4FVXE7S2YY3PNVWWK3TUL52HS4DFVREXG43VMVBW63LNMVXHJKTDN5WW2ZLOORPWSZGOEFTE4EI#issuecomment-560352785>, or unsubscribe https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AFAWBKB7KE2FTFSM2ZVG6O3QWTVIRANCNFSM4FVXE7SQ .

Did you sell your both not working sensors? PM me

alec-xander commented 4 years ago

I'm not sure if anyone can help me, I got in my car the other day and it wouldn't start, it is a 2014 fortwo electric

I scanned the car and this is the error I got;

P1A2129 - HV battery isolation relay signal not in range

does that mean the contactor needs replacing or is there a relay somewhere else in the car that is gone?

thanks!

tbnz21 commented 4 years ago

Hello I can help you Contact with me At WhatsApp: 00962797226432

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I'm not sure if anyone can help me, I got in my car the other day and it wouldn't start, it is a 2014 fortwo electric

I scanned the car and this is the error I got;

P1A2129 - HV battery isolation relay signal not in range

does that mean the contactor needs replacing or is there a relay somewhere else in the car that is gone?

thanks!

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crisgmendes commented 4 years ago

Hello, I also have a Smart Fortwo Electric of 2015 with a broken battery sensor. Can someone help me where can I find this sensor? Is the sensor from Fiat 500 E compatible with my car? In Portugal I'm having trouble finding this part. Thank you in advance for any help that I can get from you guys! ☺️

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