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Add term "gross national electricity consumption" #916

Closed KaiSchnepf closed 2 years ago

KaiSchnepf commented 3 years ago

Description of the issue

Eurostat Energy glossary uses the term gross national electricity consumption which we should add.

Ideas of solution

Add gross national electricity consumption as subclass of gross inland energy consumption

Definition from Eurostat Energy glossary : Gross national electricity consumption includes the total gross national electricity generation from all fuels (including auto-production), plus electricity imports, minus exports. Auto-production is defined as a natural or legal person generating electricity essentially for his/her own use. Gross electricity generation is measured at the outlet of the main transformers, i.e. it includes consumption in the plant auxiliaries and in transformers.

If we implement it, we should add gross electricity consumption as alternative terms.

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Vera-IER commented 3 years ago

So a shortened and Aristotelian definition would be: Gross national electricity consumption is a part of the gross inland energy consumption which includes the total gross national electricity generation from all fuels (including auto-production), plus electricity imports, minus exports. relation: has quantity value some energy amount value

I think gross electricity consumption is not an alternative term, it's rahter a new concept which could be the subclass of another new concept called gross energy consumption. Do we need those two conepts? I could think of a use case when someone uses a model which only covers a small region wihin a country or a bigger modelling reagion like Europe. Then the term national doesn't fit.

l-emele commented 3 years ago

Even if there exists a different concept that also could be labeled gross electricity consumption I think we should give gross national electricity consumption also the alternative term gross electricity consumption simply by the fact that gross electricity consumption is very often used in the domain when meaning the concept of gross national electricity consumption. One important purpose of alternative terms is to handle this ambiguity, see the respective wiki article.

Vera-IER commented 3 years ago

Alright, then let's go with gross electricity consumption as an alternative term. I think this issue is ready for implementation then.

l-emele commented 3 years ago

So far we only have an agreement about the use of the alternative term but not on the definition of the gross national electricity consumption. In fact, we do not even have an Aristotelian definition proposal yet.

l-emele commented 3 years ago

Maybe we should differentiate between a quantity value and a process. The Eurostat definition mixes both.

Vera-IER commented 3 years ago

Oh I thought I suggested a Aristotelian definition and nobody spoke against it. But if the eurostat definition doesn't fit to the ontology logic, then we could use a similar definition to the one of gross inland energy consumption:

Gross national electricity consumption is a part of the gross inland energy consumption which describes the consumption of electricity in a spation region (e.g. a country).

relation: has quantity value some energy amount value

stap-m commented 3 years ago

Gross national electricity consumption is the consumption of electricity in a spatiol region (e.g. a country). It is part of the gross inland energy consumption. ?

l-emele commented 3 years ago

Maybe we need also a quantity value, that includes the measuring part that is included in both Eurostat's definition and @Vera-IER's first proposal: X is an energy amount value that measures gross national electricity consumption. It is calculated as gross electricity generation (value?) plus electricity imports, minus exports

l-emele commented 3 years ago

Stupid question: We do not have a class like energy consumption. Maybe we should define that first?

stap-m commented 3 years ago

Maybe we need also a quantity value, that includes the measuring part that is included in both Eurostat's definition and @Vera-IER's first proposal: X is an energy amount value that measures gross national electricity consumption. It is calculated as gross electricity generation (value?) plus electricity imports, minus exports.

Aha, I just took @ last proposal as template, but I'd rather include it in the main class than in the quantity value class: Gross national electricity consumption is the [energy] consumption of electricity in a spatial region (e.g. a country), including gross electricity generation (value?) plus electricity imports, minus electricity exports. It is part of the gross inland energy consumption.

l-emele commented 3 years ago

How to you perform a mathematical operation (plus, minus) on a process?

Vera-IER commented 3 years ago

All the subclasses of consumption have the relation 'has quantitiy value' some 'energy amount value'. Is this possible for a process to have a quantity value?

Vera-IER commented 2 years ago

for dev meeting 30:

change existing class: Gross inland energy consumption is a quantity value measuring the total consumption of energy in a spatial region (e.g. a country).

new class: Gross national electricity consumption is a quantity value measuring the consumption of electrical energy in a spatial region (e.g. a country), including gross electricity generation plus electricity imports, minus electricity exports. It is part of the gross inland energy consumption. relation: Gross national electricity consumption 'is quantity value of' energy consumption value

new class: Energy consumption value is an energy quantity value that measures the energy consumption over a temporal duration.

Do you still agree or should we implement some kind of hierarchy to the classes? e.g. make Gross national electricity consumption a subclass of Gross inland energy consumption?

l-emele commented 2 years ago

Slight modification: An energy consumption value is an energy quantity value that measures the energy consumption over a temporal duration.

KaiSchnepf commented 2 years ago

new class: Energy consumption value is an energy quantity value that measures the energy consumption over a temporal duration.

Now, temporal duration is used in the definition. Should we implement temporal duration and time duration as 'alternative terms' for duration?

l-emele commented 2 years ago

If I remember correctly, we spoke in the OEO dev meeting only about time duration as alternative term to duration. I suggest that we add time duration and use it in this definition: An energy consumption value is an energy quantity value that measures the energy consumption over a time duration.