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Open Fodder: An open source port of Cannon Fodder
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Graphics from PC Version, Music from Amiga #33

Closed drozumek closed 5 years ago

drozumek commented 5 years ago

Is it possible to make version which has graphics from PC version (looks better) and music/sound from amiga version (sounds much better)?

segrax commented 5 years ago

Sort of,

The dos version already has a music replacement in place, making use of an extract from the Amiga version. However the sound effects remain the same as the original.

it should be trivial to replace the entire cSound_PC class with the cSound_Amiga class, it would just require some tweaking to the resource manager to look in the Amiga data path

segrax commented 5 years ago

Ok its implemented in the latest commit build,

Place these files from the Amiga release in the Dos_CD folder and all music/sound effects will be replaced

DESBASE.INS DESBASE.SNG ICEBASE.INS ICEBASE.SNG INTBASE.INS INTBASE.SNG JON.INS JON.SNG JUNBASE.INS JUNBASE.SNG MORBASE.INS MORBASE.SNG WARX1.INS WARX4.SNG

segrax commented 5 years ago

For good measure, you can copy the CF2 amiga audio files into the Dos2_CD folder, and it will replace them too, Amiga uses these files

MORBASE.SNG MORBASE.INS INTBASE.SNG INTBASE.INS ICEBASE.SNG ICEBASE.INS JUNBASE.SNG JUNBASE.INS DESBASE.SNG DESBASE.INS KILLER.SNG KILLER.INS JON.SNG JON.INS

drozumek commented 5 years ago

I'm a little bit confused. I've installed Open Fodder using installer from there https://github.com/OpenFodder/openfodder/releases "OpenFodder-Installer-1.5.3.exe"

asked me about Cannon Fodder 1 & 2 PC files so I gave set those from GOG, then asked me about Amiga files, so I set patch to files from there https://github.com/OpenFodder/openfodder/blob/master/INSTALL.md Retail Data > Amiga > Option2. WHDLoad > http://www.whdload.de/games/CannonFodder.html (extracted). Everything works fine except there are still sounds from PC version (music is from Amiga). So I think that you haven't updated installer.exe yet. I cant do manually changing files you mentioned above because there are no such as directiotier (Dos_CD , Dos2_CD), take a look https://i.imgur.com/JkZmkv3.png - gog CF directory https://i.imgur.com/9hM2spM.png - installed OpenFodder directory

Or I am doing sth wrong? Best regards

segrax commented 5 years ago

Ah,

Yes the installer hasn't been updated yet, but you can download and use the latest built executable from our build pipeline.

On Windows, the installer follows recommended practice and copies the data to your profile directory, %USERPROFILE%/Documents/OpenFodder/Data

The latest EXE is available from https://s3.amazonaws.com/openfodder-builds/OpenFodder-latest.zip

drozumek commented 5 years ago

Ok, I managed to get amiga files and put them into Dos_CD folder. But I've noticed a small-big difference. On Amiga there are sounds of river when you are near it (rjp.JUNBASE(5).wav). There are also sounds of creaky ice on winter missions (rjp.ICEBASE(4).wav) and much more. These sounds were not initially implemented on PC version, and can't hear them after replacing all those files you provided. Is there any way to implement these extra environment sounds in PC version? After that is done the best possible Cannon Fodder experience will be achieved. Best regards

segrax commented 5 years ago

Those sounds are part of the 'background tracks', did you copy both sets of files over ?

both .SNG and .INS

drozumek commented 5 years ago

Yes, that's how the folder now looks like https://i.imgur.com/q6NOMO0.png

and I have one more, small question. Why there are files in Dos2_CD by default https://i.imgur.com/9OQV04L.png and in Dos_CD are not?

segrax commented 5 years ago

Yes, that's how the folder now looks like https://i.imgur.com/q6NOMO0.png

and I have one more, small question. Why there are files in Dos2_CD by default https://i.imgur.com/9OQV04L.png and in Dos_CD are not?

Are you using latest exe from https://s3.amazonaws.com/openfodder-builds/OpenFodder-latest.zip (it should be modified within the last couple of hours)?

If you selected your GOG version of Cannon Fodder 2 during installation, it will have copied the files into the Dos2_CD folder for you automatically

drozumek commented 5 years ago

Yes. I use latest exe. I've also selected GOG CF 1 during installation but only CF 2 files were copied.

segrax commented 5 years ago

CF1 only needs CF_ENG.DAT which has been copied over, it contains all the dos files

drozumek commented 5 years ago

Thank you for your replies, I appreciate that. I will wait for the new installator, because after copying both .SNG and .INS files, there are sounds from amiga (shooting, enemies yelling etc), but there are no additional ambient sounds (river, wind, ice).

I've noticed one more difference between amiga and PC. PC has something wrong with response time and framerate. Amiga version is much smoother and pointer works better. It was even noticed by some youtubers, eg. https://youtu.be/Os35Y7SFi7Q?t=9m5s (from 9:14 is amiga version). Is it possible to fix that in near future? Have you got patronite or sth so I can support you in some way? best regards

segrax commented 5 years ago

I've noticed one more difference between amiga and PC. PC has something wrong with response time and framerate. Amiga version is much smoother and pointer works better

Do you mean you notice it happening under OpenFodder, or the original dos version? OpenFodder should run smooth like the Amiga version at all times, if you do notice a specific time a problem occurs, are you able to document it for us?

drozumek commented 5 years ago

I noticed it both in original and OpenFodder. Sure I will document this.