Open mattodd opened 5 months ago
@P-Rayner - it may be that nobody invited you to this meeting, sorry if so. If you can make it, great, otherwise thanks for the update at and do please keep us posted on any developments.
@MA-Jjingyi @marijschippers I've given the five Epichem compounds recently screened MYOS codes in the Master List. More evaluation data can now be added.
Hi @mattodd there were no actionables on our end from the previous meeting
Update slide from Erika for compounds made by MSc class at UCL. Erika MSc group project_aminothiazoles_summary.pptx
Structure of MMV1804559 (right hand bicyclic system is a N-linked aminohydroxyindane) @OpenSourceMycetoma/corecontrib
As mentioned in the meeting, all of the 'series 5' benzoxazoles, the 'UOxxx' codes in the 'other ID' column, have been tested by DNDi partners (tagging @dosreic) against a parasite panel and also for cell cytotoxicity. This data is publicly available at https://www.dropbox.com/s/0ex9pv43c1mmazo/OSN%20P5%20Data%20set.sdf?dl=0 (SDF file) or https://www.dropbox.com/s/l67p8xa3raa1nrj/OSN%20P5%20Data%20set.xlsx?dl=0 (excel file) from this website https://dndi.org/research-development/portfolio/open-synthesis-network/ (ie OSN project 5). There are around 100 benzoxazoles of similar structure in this data. Taking a quick look it looks like one your hits, MYOS_00527_00_01 aka DNDI0004042515 showed cytotoxicity.
Sorry I missed the meeting as I made a mistake with the time (thought it was later).
I'm currently putting together the concluding remarks following the SAR, in the manuscript (the item "What is known of related structures inhibiting CYP51, i.e. how do our results compare to what is known of Cyp51 inhibition?". This will be done by tomorrow on my part.
I revisited the SAR section and because my final batch MYOS510–520 has been screened, more SAR trend can be seen. I've just written this section for my thesis and I think it would be valuable to add this to the manuscript. Particularly of value is match-pairing grid of 24 compounds with variation of substitution patterns (Ring 2) vs changes to Ring 3 aromaticity (first photo below) @mattodd okay to do this?
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If these are to be added, I can also update the manuscript SI excel file with these entries as well. @wwjvdsande checking with you that this is okay to do.
@fantasy121 Yes, sounds great, please add. If you want, you can add this in as a new scheme in the right place and include any conclusions you've derived and then we can all look at how bst to merge this into the main MS? Let us know when you're done, and we can then take a look. Ditto the MOA remarks - please add in what you have and then we can take a look. Ultimately these (updated SAR, comparison with lit MOA) are the final two parts needed for the manuscript.
@P-Rayner - it may be that nobody invited you to this meeting, sorry if so. If you can make it, great, otherwise thanks for the update at and do please keep us posted on any developments.
@mattodd many thanks for the invite. Sorry I didn't pick it up in time but I will try to be at the next one. We have sent off our samples, so hopefully they will arrive soon (custom problems depending!).
I will make myos code for the York series 3 molecules in a few hours @mattodd
Relevant files: Erika.MSc.group.project_aminothiazoles_summary.pptx
Chair: ErasmusMC
Minute taker: USyd
Previous meeting:
Recording:
Present: @mattodd , @MFernflower , @wwjvdsande , @dmitrij176 , @KlementineJBS, @marijschippers, Mickey K, @AndreaOtago
Apologies: @fantasy121 @MA-Jjingyi, @P-Rayner
Report from Wendy at ErasmusMC
Final Molecules/SAR Gaps summarised here. In summary:
No update on @dosreic to investigating whether it is possible to have SCYX0001294212 EPL-BS0121 and SCYX0001315839 EPL-BS0143 shipped from TCG to Wendy.
@fantasy121 has added five compounds tested to the Master List
Dmitrij has done some modelling for both fenarimols and ketoximes (more on ketoximes later). There is some evidence to suggest a correlation between binding in hydrophobic pocket / spatial arrangement and activity of compounds. Currently, the literature about this is very disperse and unspecific.
Should keep in mind that compounds which have good docking/modelling results but aren’t active in vitro are possibly not able to cross the cell wall or membrane.
We currently assume that both ketoximes and fenarimols are CYP51F1 inhibitors.
DNDI has oral prodrug for ravuconazole, in trials right now. It inhibits CYP51F1 like itraconazole, the currently used medication.
No one on the call could update on Bioinformatics.
@P-Rayner the compounds arrived today. We will dilute them and start the screening process. On the bottle it was not written down how much mg was in each bottle. Do you know or do we need to weigh?
Hi @wwjvdsande I'm pleased the compounds have arrived - I kept getting emails to say they were delayed due to the storm. Apologies - I didn't record how many mg in each bottle - I will do for next time!
I wonder - for World NTD day on Tue could we highlight:
1) Any molecule from the recent screening that was unusually potent? 2) The molecule that appeared to modify the grain morphology?
Apologies, because I had to leave early, I don't know if there was something for 1) and I don't know which molecule was 2). If someone could point me in the right direction I can try to highlight on Tue.
@fantasy121 Yes, sounds great, please add. If you want, you can add this in as a new scheme in the right place and include any conclusions you've derived and then we can all look at how bst to merge this into the main MS? Let us know when you're done, and we can then take a look. Ditto the MOA remarks - please add in what you have and then we can take a look. Ultimately these (updated SAR, comparison with lit MOA) are the final two parts needed for the manuscript.
@mattodd I've added the additional SAR information into the manuscript. Updated MS version to Fenarimol Paper January 29 V2.3 as current.
I've added the new compounds in the Expo details section but am working on some final characterisations.
@mattodd the molecule which came out of the latest screenings from the MMV boxes and which resulted in smaller grains was: MMV1804559
@wwjvdsande Just uploaded the structure png
Hi @MFernflower would you be willing to do a search for commercial sources of MMV1804559 and close analogs? Smaller grain size is a potentially significant finding.
@wwjvdsande is it possible to check whether this compound alters the penetration into grains e.g. by co-administration with a compound that we already know to be partially effective in the in vivo model?
@mattodd that is a difficult question. Amphotericin B does work well in the larvae but we don't know yet what MMV1804559 exactly does. We are looking in literature to find some clues. We could try to combine MMV1804559 and amphotericin B but this would not automatically mean that it will allow better penetration. We did not see synergy between itraconazole and MMV1804559.
This is very interesting. Do you have enough of this sample for now? Does the grain size depend on the concentration of the molecule? (That may be a tough question to answer) Besides size, I wonder if there is anything different about the grain morphology that is measurable?
@mattodd unfortunately we only test at standard concentrations. We had to lower the concentrations due to toxicity issues but at a lower concentration it did work. We looked with histology at the grain morphology but so far no clear differences there, only the size.
@OpenSourceMycetoma/corecontrib some data I was able to mine
@OpenSourceMycetoma/corecontrib I uploaded some new data in the spreadsheet. Please take a look at it. It includes the data from @dmitrij176 s compounds as well as the NEU compounds as requested by @MFernflower
Thank you @wwjvdsande
Time: Jan 23rd (8 am UK) Timezones.
The Outlook invite can be found here
Location: today we will meet at https://ucl.zoom.us/j/99789829423 and in case of double failure use MycetOS meeting teams link Chair: Minute taker: ErasmusMC Previous meeting: #14 Recording: [here] Present: Apologies:
AGENDA
@OpenSourceMycetoma/corecontrib please flag up any key issues ahead of the meeting, and please note any apologies above.
In vitro screening**
Series 1 - Fenarimols
[ ] Final Molecules/SAR Gaps (summarised here. Latest status was described in the last meeting (#14). In summary:
[ ] @dosreic to investigate whether it is possible to have SCYX0001294212 EPL-BS0121 and SCYX0001315839 EPL-BS0143 shipped from TCG to Wendy.
[x] @fantasy121 to add the five compounds tested to the Master List and generate MyOS codes and send those codes to @MA-Jjingyi and/or @marijschippers to ensure data can be properly reported.
[ ] @MA-Jjingyi to advise whether more data coming on these compounds
Fenarimol Paper
Most recent file version on Dropbox remains: Fenarimol Paper October 3rd V2.2 edited last Jan 22nd 2024.
Highlighting recent hits in this series: from @MA-Jjingyi latest data, it would be helpful to have a diagram with structures. MYOS00510 and MYOS00518 were hits? Do recently-tested compounds need to be incorporated in the fenarimol manuscript? New SAR diagrams ideally need to be added to the wiki with codes, or we risk missing key insights from the new data.
Examples (are there others?): Data from Sept 21
[ ] Modelling: @meh-cyprian to proceed to try to model fenarimol compounds in potential protein target (described here or to clarify what more data are needed. Aim is to better understand the SAR via docking vs homology model of protein. @gemmaturon and @miquelduranfrigola presented their work that was done when visiting @meh-cyprian. Were there actions arising from that presentation?
Siderophores:
Fluoroscent siderophore was tested in the larvae in the last weeks of the season.
Series 2 - Aminothiazoles
Molecules made by UCL MSc cohort (23 entries) were shipped to Erasmus MC for testing. Also Whitgift compound (MYOS_0590_00_01).
@KlementineJBS wrote a guide on the Wiki on how to share compounds in a way that will hopefully prevent duplication of both compounds themselves and MYOS codes. Also posted some compounds to be made next here.
Series 5 - Benzimidazoles Good potencies were observed for recent compound batches of benzoxazoles (e.g. here). These resemble the benzimidazoles which have shown potent in vivo efficacy.
Testing is ongoing. So far MYOS00527 was the only hit.
Some oxazoles will be tested against Falciformispora senegalensis too (by whom?). This series will be evaluated in vivo in the new larval season <-- is this still to be done?
More benzoxazoles: @AndreaOtago says that the CHEM 305 students will be making more benzoxazoles in April 2024 as part of their lab project. @dosreic suggested doing some PK 'SAR' follow up analogues so this could inform both DNDi's project and this project. @dosreic to follow up the DMPK results.
[ ] @AndreaOtago and @dosreic to update on planned designs and whether other students could make additional compounds using the same approach?
[ ] @memm0740 to search for whether additional samples could be obtained from other labs. <-- can be closed, though still needed!
[ ] @memm0740 to update on progress of synthesis. Done here <-- Can this be added to the wiki by a member of the Sydney team, so we can close this action item?
[ ] @memm0740 to post link to raw data on ELN <-- can this please be put on the wiki by a member of the Sydney team?
Series 6: ketoximes
Latest compound shipment https://github.com/OpenSourceMycetoma/Series-6-Ketoximes/issues/5, to be tested by @MA-Jjingyi.
@bebi78 had suggested evaluating different salts of the ketoximes, still of value for future. Perhaps this can go on the wiki under future plans? <-- outdated. Would be useful to capture on wiki and then delete from here.
Series 3: Tricyclics/Phenothiazines
**Global Health Priority Box***
This has been tested and reported by @MA-Jjingyi here. Three compounds were taken on to in vivo testing. Outcome is some promise for compound MMV1804559.
Kinase inhibitor library.
The KCGS library was screened. Additional drugs of similar classes were sent by @bebi78 and screened by @marijschippers. In total 6 drugs from the KCGS appeared to be hits along with one from the package sent by @bebi78.
Bioinformatics
Plant Extracts from Nigeria
Further to the conversation here we need to establish
[ ] Whether the extracts have been evaluated @wwjvdsande @MA-Jjingyi
[ ] How we assign codes to these samples @bebi78
[ ] Whether more samples are incoming and how we can obtain costs for shipment @nwezemeka @dosreic
Misc updates:
[x] Jan 30th is World NTD Day - how should we mark this to spread the word? Amplification of socmed activity by @dosreic would be very good.
[ ] @mattodd has received DMPK measurements by Dundee. Compound selection took place in here - @dmitrij176 to post there the chemdraw and spreadsheet of the final list of compounds that was sent to Dundee so we can correlate data with structure.
[ ] @memm0740 to enter the data for Rohan Davies' compounds into the Master List. They need MyOS codes. <-- done? Can this be closed?
[ ] @MA-Jjingyi previously presented larval toxicity studies results from recent compound screening. Data were presented here, but how do we fold the data into the Master List and the various wikis? @KlementineJBS gave a summary here. Do we have a strategy for toxicity measurements more generally?
Next Meetings
Feb 27th noon UK time (Timezones)