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PMID:30610168 Binding of the Magnaporthe oryzae Chitinase MoChia1 by a Rice Tetratricopeptide Repeat Protein Allows Free Chitin to Trigger Immune Responses (MoChia1 -PAMP) #42

Closed ValWood closed 3 weeks ago

ValWood commented 4 years ago

link to curation session https://canto.phi-base.org/curs/79c56f92435923ab

I needed to disambiguate some rice genes for use in extensions. The reply from UniProt is attached. RiceRboh.pdf

This raises the question if the naming convention is different for plants than for fungi because this spreadsheet has suffix 'Os'. I have asked UniProt about this.

ValWood commented 4 years ago

I don't understand the staement MoChai1 is a PAMP. PAMP= pathogen associated molecular pattern.

This is a protein/chitinase. I though teh PAMPS were the chitin fragments?

@CuzickA

ValWood commented 4 years ago

This is deduced from "MoChai induced callose deposition in the rice cell walls , similar to chitin treatment". We therefore that MoChai is an active PMAP for rice plants.

I don't get this. Based on this experiment any protein which induces immune events would be a PMAP? ~This means that all effectors are PAMPS is that correct. A PAMP can be anything?~

@CuzickA

CuzickA commented 4 years ago

I don't understand the staement MoChai1 is a PAMP. PAMP= pathogen associated molecular pattern.

This is a protein/chitinase. I though teh PAMPS were the chitin fragments?

Yes this is confusing. I've had a quick look through the paper and spoken to @KEHammond. You are correct with chitin fragments being PAMPs.

These authors are also calling the MoChia a PAMP.

Past literature has called these pathogen chitin-binding proteins 'effectors' but this very recent paper appears to be moving towards PAMP. This field is evolving over time. There is a 2011 paper PMID: 21278123 'Of PAMPs and Effectors: The Blurred PTI-ETI Dichotomy' where they state that 'The LysM effectors are not the only group of effectors that qualify to be designated as PAMPs based on their widespread occurrence. The intro line to the abstract states that "Typically, pathogen-associated molecular patterns (PAMPs) are considered to be conserved throughout classes of microbes and to contribute to general microbial fitness, whereas effectors are species, race, or strain specific and contribute to pathogen virulence."

We think that a useful term for MoChia could be 'effector acting like a PAMP'.

ValWood commented 4 years ago

We think that a useful term for MoChia could be 'effector acting like a PAMP'.

Unfortunately we won't be able to do this in GO. GO defines activities and processes. We can't define and activity as being "like" another activity. However, we only need to define terms precisely and in a way that follows the majority use. We shouldn't bend the rules for individual idiosyncracies.

However, if this is the general opionion of the community we should define PAMPs more broadly (note that GO does not have a term for PAMP because this is not a BP or MF, but we do use the phrase PAMP in other terms, like PAMP receptor, so it is important that we know exacty what is considered to be a PAMP).

We might need to canvas opinion on this.

CuzickA commented 4 years ago

In Fig 8 of this paper the authors propose that MoChia1 plays dual roles in rice immunity 1) It binds fungal chitin fragments and suppresses the chitin-triggered ROS burst. (Suppresses host defence). (Host OsTPR can bind MoChia, freeing chitin and re-establishing defence). 2) It is perceived by an unknown host PRR which triggers the ROS burst. (acts like a PAMP and Activates PTI host defence)

Q: is chitin-triggered immunity the same thing as PTI? (Why not call it PTI, I have noticed in other papers authors also say 'chitin-triggered immunity'.)

ValWood commented 4 years ago

OK I went through this paper again and it all seems clear to me now. MoChai is a PAMP, and a PAMP receptor decoy. I think the annotation is OK but @CuzickA please check carefully, especially the pathogen host interaction phenotypes

Summary: pathogen/ symbiont MoChai shelters chitin from chitin-activated immunity ->surpasses plant immunity Rice immune system could be switched on by chitin AND by MOChai alone so Mochai protein also acts as a PAMP

plants TPR1 frees chitin from MOchai (to positively regulate PRR signalling)

ValWood commented 4 years ago

To do. I need some slightly more specific GO terms.

ValWood commented 4 years ago

To do.

CuzickA commented 4 years ago

@ValWood have you requested UniProt add gene names to these where required?

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ValWood commented 4 years ago

I can't find a record of these requests. However, if we are going to have a "user friendly name" and export in batches to submit to UniProt we probably don't need to send these on a case by case basis.

I will do this one anyway...

CuzickA commented 3 years ago

Reannotating this session

We have an open query about the PHIPO terms for PTI activation (assumed by readouts eg callose) vs actual PTI signaling expt (looking at phosphorylation of MAPK3 and MAPK6) https://github.com/PHI-base/phipo/issues/251

Regarding the use of term 'host PAMP-triggered immunity signaling activated by pathogen' for Fig 1B image image Main text image

Would it be better here to use a 'NTR: host defense MAPK signaling present' with AE assayed_using MAPK3 and MAPK6 or something similar? What do you think @ValWood or even 'NTR: host defense MAPK phosphorylation present' and AE.

We could then take the 'signaling' out of the 'host PAMP-triggered immunity signaling activated by pathogen' term and make it more general for observsing PTI read outs eg ROS, callose

Current PHIPO terms in this branch image

CuzickA commented 3 years ago

What is the best way of annotating that MoChia is a PAMP? GO or PHIPO From main text 'When MoChia1 was exogenously applied to rice cells, we found that the MAPK pathway was significantly activated, whereas the mock treatment did not activate this pathway (Figure 1B). In addition, MoChia1 induced callose deposition in the rice cell walls, similar to the chitin treatment (Figure 1C). We therefore concluded that MoChia1 is an active PAMP for rice plants'

ValWood commented 3 years ago

What is the best way of annotating that MoChia is a PAMP? GO or PHIPO

We can't say specifically that something is a PAMP using GO because this isn't the evolved role. We could need to add a new curation type of "immune epitopes" to capture this. I think we have only captured this previously if we have known the plant receptor and we have been able to capture as an 'input' (i.e the ligand of a plant receptor), but in this case there is no plant entity to attach it to.

CuzickA commented 3 years ago

Removed host 'strain unknown' and added 'cv Nipponbare' to all genotypes/metagenotypes

CuzickA commented 3 years ago

Added RNA annotations

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_28_042021 removed Figure 2B RNA annotation as information already captured in the WT RNA level below.

CuzickA commented 3 years ago

see https://github.com/PHI-base/phipo/issues/332 for PTI PHIPO term revision

CuzickA commented 3 years ago

The reannotation of this session has been a lot of work but the new additions to PHI-Canto (eg conditions delivery mechanisms, have made these types of expt easier to curate.

I have changed the genotypes so that the 4 types of WT Chia1 are represented as follows image

(within metagenotypes) Chia1+ [WT level] represents WT pathogen delivery mechanism: pathogen spore inoculation Chia1+ [not assayed] represents purified protein Ubi::Chia1-OE+[Overexpression] represents constitutive promoter delivery mechanism: pathogen gene expressed by transgenic host Dex::Chia1+[Not assayed] represents inducible promoter delivery mechanism: pathogen gene expressed by transgenic host, + dexamethasone

CuzickA commented 3 years ago

Unable to add metagenotype controls in many cases as would have either been equivalent to empty vector/ no pathogen protein added.

Also unable to add AE Disease interaction in expt where the pathogen was not inoculated onto the host. eg purified pathogen protein added or transgenic host expressing pathogen protein.

Not relevant to add AE infective ability in many expt.

Also to note regarding metagenotypes used WT host no specified gene until identification of host TRP1 in Figure 5 (interacting with pathogen Chia1). Then Figure 5 onwards specified TRP1 within host genotype either as WT or altered.

Still a query for Fig 6D to discuss PHIPO terms and usage (note detail in host metagenotype of TPR1+ [WT level] vs [not assayed])

This one is ready for checking please @ValWood

ValWood commented 3 years ago

Curating controls Although It is necessary (useful and interesting) to recorded the pathogenic outcome of the controls. I don't think it is necessary to say "compared to.....control" in an extension unless a change is reported (in which case you need something to compare to?)

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These stand alone as independent annotations. They can be compared but the comparitor isn't necessary?

ValWood commented 3 years ago

According to the summary, Im not sure about this:

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This is about TPR1 role in sequestering, but that would be odd, as it would suppress the plant immunity? (according to the summary)

CuzickA commented 3 years ago

Session approved, closing ticket

CuzickA commented 2 years ago

change 'apoplast' to 'host apoplast see #98 image

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CuzickA commented 1 year ago

See https://github.com/PHI-base/curation/issues/114

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1) MPK3 is Q6Z437 MPK6 is Q336X9 Looks like these were added manually as there is no AE option for 'assayed_using' available for this PHIPO term image

2)

image G4MXR2_MAGOG7 is MGG_08054

manually changing this to image

3) image Q0DHH6_ORYSJ is OSNPB_050465800 OJ1328_D07.24-1 should be OSNPB_090438000 ERROR in UniProt added here to AE should be Q69LJ7

Now changed to

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Hi @jseager7, just looking at this session to correct/edit unused genes from ticket #114.

It looks like there are several problems. it would be nice if there were some checks for these.

1) The PHIPO term is missing an AE and so the info was added as text. 2) The UniProt id was added as text (?) and did not automatically show the gene name. 3) Same as 2) and a different UniProt id had been added.

I think we need a way of flagging up the AEs 'added as text' prior to approval so that these edits can be made.

jseager7 commented 1 year ago

I think we need a way of flagging up the AEs 'added as text' prior to approval so that these edits can be made.

See https://github.com/PHI-base/curation/issues/114#issuecomment-1337115264.

CuzickA commented 1 year ago

I think this should be 2 annotations, one for MPK3 and one for MPK6 image

Make change when AE available

CuzickA commented 1 year ago

Note to self Check use of '::' double colons in genotypes. In these cases I think they have been used to indicate promoters used within a construct. This may cause confusion as similar to allele name structure for disruption mutants. eg GT2-23-170::T-DNA(disruption)[Not assayed] in https://canto.phi-base.org/curs/8149debd202f2e6e/ro/

eg Ubi::Chia1-OE+[Overexpression] Dex::Chia1+[Not assayed]

CuzickA commented 3 weeks ago

Session is approved