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Law and Environment Ontology (InforMEA) #61

Open mickwilson opened 8 years ago

mickwilson commented 8 years ago

Has any consideration been given to adding the InforMEA LEO http://leo.informea.org/ to the domain ontologies relevant to SDGIO?

This is sponsored, developed and maintained by a UNEP-affiliated group of Multilateral Environmental Agreements and hence highly relevant to the implementation side of SDG goals.

As far as I know it does not yet expose an API but, based on experiments conducted 2 years ago, could technically be made to do so, though some institutional negotiation might be needed to reach agreement.

cmungall commented 8 years ago

Your URL is getting munged somewhere - should be http://leo.informea.org/

for ontologies, having an ontology-specific API is not so useful, better to expose the ontology via export into a standard exchange format or representation: OWL, SKOS (also much less labor intensive).

Looks like the underlying representation is SKOS-like, it should not be too hard for someone within the project to make SKOS export. After that we have procedures for ontologizing SKOS

But definitely very relevant

On 6 Jan 2016, at 1:29, Mick Wilson wrote:

Has any consideration been given to adding the InforMEA LEO http://leoinformeaorg/ to the domain ontologies relevant to SDGIO?

This is sponsored, developed and maintained by a UNEP-affiliated group of Multilateral Environmental Agreements and hence highly relevant to the implementation side of SDG goals

As far as I know it does not yet expose an API but, based on experiments conducted 2 years ago, could technically be made to do so, though some institutional negotiation might be needed to reach agreement


Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/SDG-InterfaceOntology/sdgio/issues/61

mickwilson commented 8 years ago

Okay, and thanks, whoever you are

I know from past experience that we cab get something like a TTL or OWL: extract from LEO. What I have no idea of is the frequency or reliability with which such extracts could or ought be produced, or how they would recurrently be integrated with SGDIO, given that this and all other domain ontologies are under continuous refinement.

If I am to approach the InforMEA/ LEO custodian, what should I ask for?

FYI 2 years ago some fiends and I got a TTL dump from InforMEA and with the help of some friends at CSIRO demonstrated a SKOS-able interface to the InforMEA working group, so I know this is do-able.

Cheers

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-----Chris Mungall notifications@github.com wrote: ----- To: SDG-InterfaceOntology/sdgio sdgio@noreply.github.com From: Chris Mungall notifications@github.com Date: 01/06/2016 08:30PM Cc: Mick Wilson mick.wilson@unep.org Subject: Re: [sdgio] Law and Environment Ontology (InforMEA) (#61)

Your URL is getting munged somewhere - should be http://leo.informea.org/

for ontologies, having an ontology-specific API is not so useful, better to expose the ontology via export into a standard exchange format or representation: OWL, SKOS (also much less labor intensive).

Looks like the underlying representation is SKOS-like, it should not be too hard for someone within the project to make SKOS export. After that we have procedures for ontologizing SKOS

But definitely very relevant

On 6 Jan 2016, at 1:29, Mick Wilson wrote:

Has any consideration been given to adding the InforMEA LEO http://leoinformeaorg/ to the domain ontologies relevant to SDGIO?

This is sponsored, developed and maintained by a UNEP-affiliated group of Multilateral Environmental Agreements and hence highly relevant to the implementation side of SDG goals

As far as I know it does not yet expose an API but, based on experiments conducted 2 years ago, could technically be made to do so, though some institutional negotiation might be needed to reach agreement


Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/SDG-InterfaceOntology/sdgio/issues/61 — Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub.

cmungall commented 8 years ago

I am one of the developers of ENVO. I primarily work in bioinformatics, but am providing assistance where I can on SDGIO.

For the purposes of slurping or integration, the first thing to inquire about would be the license. Second would be whether the skos/ttl process is easily repeatable (e.g. run by cron), and if not whether the underlying source (e.g. mysql db, csvs, ...) can be deposited in a publicly visibly place...

...however, it seems that an invitation to collaborate might be the best first step, what do you think @pbuttigieg ?

mark-jensen commented 8 years ago

We were contacted by Alexandra Fante at IUCN after a presentation Pier made back in October. They have used VOCBENCH, something I'm not very familiar with. @cmungall is correct in that it appears to be SKOS-XL. She gave the name of Eva Duer as a contact point.

She mentions:

The collection [vocabulary] is the result of collecting, analyzing and harmonizing existing vocabularies and glossaries used by MEA information systems. One of the recommendations at the beginning of the project was to adapt to GEMET where applicable.

I know that mapping GEMET was worked on here in SDGIO as well. So maybe some crossover?

@mickwilson I would be happy to reach out and establish contact to discuss license and collaboration. However, your question about what to ask for is important. It helps to have specific questions or points that need addressing, so that after the initial contact something concrete can be addressed.

@pbuttigieg Thoughts, on a couple specific examples of how LEO can aid us in the near future?