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Rename "regional" to "local produce" or similar #62

Open species opened 8 years ago

species commented 8 years ago

@mattw proposed to rename it¹, "Local Produce Map" sounds much better!

[1] https://discourse.transformap.co/t/whats-on-the-various-maps-green-political-regional-organic-etc/776?u=species

pmackay commented 8 years ago

Slight issue with this is that Local Produce sounds as if its food only, but I'm not sure the map is only food?

species commented 8 years ago

Do we want to be it food-only? Do you have any suggestions of additional POI types that would fit a map that shows "where you can get your stuff locally produced"?

Currently, it shows everything tagged "regional", in addition to community gardens, CSAs and produce stands.

pmackay commented 8 years ago

I'm not saying I want it to be food only, just that it sounds rather like food only if called "Local produce" (just tried a google search on that and all the links are food related). A food only map could be a good thing if called that, or call it just "Local food map"? (even simpler?)

Otherwise if its to represent anything locally produced, not just food, what about "Local economy map"?

Having said that, properly understanding what local production means on a map that only shows points, not value chains, is hard, particularly with non-food things. What kinds of non-food products are there that one could guarantee are used locally if made in a certain place?

josefkreitmayer commented 8 years ago

That might be an english - german translation issue. The noun "produce" refers to products from agriculture. It refers to the raw product, or to the product sold by the farmer or local food producer. In that sense, e.g. a glass of selfmade pickles sold on a farmers market would fit, but a organic veggie restaurant not (actually could, if the raw produce is sourced locally)...

I personally would see it a wonderful sub-category of a "local economy" or "local products" map on the one side. On the other side, IMHO in the field of local production, I think the food sector dominates by 90% in the Middle European Countries. I do not know about CEE countries and Mediterranian.

Probably we could start with that sector, as it is quite well understood, and at the same time develop clarity what else is locally sourced for the average household in some places.

I see furniture as an example, which has still some solid industry in some countries and close to none in others (prices is another topic in that area of course)

species commented 8 years ago

I like "Local economy map". Or would it be possible that there are voices inside TransforMap against the word "economy"?

josefkreitmayer commented 8 years ago

Think that would be fine. We started as "alternative economies".

Actually, I would opt for the plural, "local economies", to broaden the perspective beyond the usual narrowing of the term widely used for the most common form of market driven money economy.

Josef

Mag. Josef Kreitmayer | j@getactive.org | www.transformap.co Am 20.12.2015 17:06 schrieb "Michael Maier" notifications@github.com:

I like "Local economy map". Or would it be possible that there are voices inside TransforMap against the word "economy"?

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/TransforMap/demo.transformap.co/issues/62#issuecomment-166111291 .

pmackay commented 8 years ago

I see furniture as an example, which has still some solid industry in some countries and close to none in others (prices is another topic in that area of course)

So its when furniture is made and sold locally? How to guarantee that is happening?

josefkreitmayer commented 8 years ago

I actually think the furniture example was quite unfit. Some criteria could be, that the project/company/organization has some understanding of their localization aspect (eg. community supported agriculture or food coops have that quite strong).

The carpenters, I thought of, very likely do not have that.

In general, what do you think about putting such more socio-economical questions in discourse?

There is much more people, that care and can contribute to the non-technical discussions. Am 21.12.2015 17:02 schrieb "Paul Mackay" notifications@github.com:

I see furniture as an example, which has still some solid industry in some countries and close to none in others (prices is another topic in that area of course)

So its when furniture is made and sold locally? How to guarantee that is happening?

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/TransforMap/demo.transformap.co/issues/62#issuecomment-166278078 .