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Rationality, ethics, metaphysics.
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Add Definition for Truth #49

Open SeverTopan opened 6 years ago

SeverTopan commented 6 years ago

Not really sure where to start with this one, but I think it would be interesting to nail down.

macterra commented 6 years ago

Recently saved this (strawman) >> https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1014980724204531712

True: a definition: "performs the function intended within the time and space allowed" (this is pragmatism). Fundamentally true: "that which performs many such functions across many such domains of time and space"

macterra commented 6 years ago

My own rough take: Only models (representations) can be coherently assigned a truth value (true or false or some credence measure in between). The models that are true belong to the set that are logically consistent with each other. In the context of proposition (statements, assertions, beliefs, etc), only conditionals can be assigned a truth value (semantic logic).

macterra commented 6 years ago

Yudkowsly seems to think it is a simple concept but I'm not so sure. I found this book quite enlightening... https://www.amazon.com/Truth-about-confusing-Re-constructing-Consciousness/dp/0874778018

SeverTopan commented 5 years ago

I like the distinction Yudkowsky draws between epistemic and instrumental truths. I think it is reflected nicely in the jp tweet.

macterra commented 5 years ago

What would you say is the difference between epistemic and instrumental?