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Open and Save Evernote notes from Sublime Text 3 using Markdown
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feature request: IMAP Notes #143

Open chew-z opened 8 years ago

chew-z commented 8 years ago

I have written hundreds of sometimes quite long notes using this plugin. This is my favourite enviroment for writing - Sublime Text on my Mac, writing with simple markdown and Send to Evernotes when I am done.

However with new Evernotes pricing, limits to free tier and general Evernotes attitude telling us that we do not own our notes but rather they are held hostage for a ransom I do consider migration.

Would you consider adding some other backends? I mean mostly IMAP Notes (preferably with pre El Capitan Apple Notes flavour) but Google Keep or OneNote might be an option for somebody. I guess you already have like 90% functionality working and battle tested - converting markdown to text\html, converting html back to markdown, keeping track of unique ID etc.

It would be really cool feature, if I could edit notes and send/load them both to/from IMAP Notes and Evenotes (I still have my Premium subscription).

bordaigorl commented 8 years ago

Hi, this is an interesting suggestion. Where can I find more info on IMAP notes? Is it supported by Evernote? Which other services support it?

chew-z commented 8 years ago

IMAP Notes underneath are just emails that you send from yourself to yourself and which are kept in a special folder - it is often INBOX.Notes (with subfolders). This implementation detail is usually hidden from end-user so he is using separate program (like Notes on iOS or Mac) for note taking without realizing that he is really creating emails.

You could store notes with any email provider also self-hosted. Accessing notes could be done via some IMAP library like imaplib for Python. So this is vendor independent unlike Evernotes.

Notes could be plaintext or text/html with some attachments and as in email each has unique ID. Implementations vary but it is usually a simple subset of html similar to Evernote.

Apple has it’s own flavour. Some details here and here. But with Apple Notes you can also use Gmail or Fastmail or any other account.

Caveat - in iOS 9 Apple introduced enhanced Notes that are stored in iCloud not in your email iCloud account. But Notes app still works via IMAP with other accounts.

bluebirch commented 8 years ago

I'm sorry for hijacking this issue, but I just wonder about @chew-z's statement that " we do not own our notes but rather they are held hostage for a ransom"? I do not want to start a discussion about this (because it's off-topic), but perhaps @chew-z could point me in some direction?

chew-z commented 8 years ago

As you may have heard Evernotes recently changed it's pricing, limiting free tier to two devices (quite inconvenient if you use Evernotes on iPad, iPhone and laptop) and rasing price of it's paid tiers at the same time. Detail here and here.

As a commercial entity Evernotes is free to do as it likes. Sure. As far as I have read Evernotes has new CEO and is in search of profitable business model. Fair enough.

However it is a sort of extracting ransom from existing users - You keep with us hundreds, maybe thousands of notes that are precious to you so from now on pay us more money or go. And if it worked once why not ask for 10$ per month, 15$ or maybe 49$.

It had happened before (Microsoft taking back free storage on OneDrive from users) and will happen again (maybe Github will be next?). For that reason, despite having Evernote Premium for years I am considering freedom of keeping my notes with any choosen email provider (or self-hosted) and using standard technology like email and IMAP.