Closed daslerr closed 6 years ago
Very nice! Can the CMS release update be featured the "learn" box of the middle section? We would also give priority there to the article form the MIT group over the summer student report.
Just a note: the other experiments do not yet release research quality data, so some care for misunderstandings under "Analyse". @RaoOfPhysics what do you think?
Great - sounds convincing and I note the improved terminology
Just a note: the other experiments do not yet release research quality data, so some care for misunderstandings under "Analyse".
FWIW, I echo @katilp's concerns.
Otherwise, good stuff, @daslerr. Looking forward to seeing the mockup. :)
looks really nice!
I think it covers exactly what we discussed altogether :)
Looks great! Two small remarks on details :
It looks fantastic! Just a very minor comment: perhaps we could have something else instead of "focus on".
Nicely captures the concept we drafted on paper :smile: Some remarks:
"Explore more than "1 petabyte ..." spelled like this, will PB in full, will have better visual impact here.
The search example "getting started" is better left alone, i.e. separated from "experiment:cms", since getting started is something that is searched by novices, who wouldn't use fielded search. And, for power users, instead of "experiment:cms", we can advertise something like "energy:7TeV", since experiments are linked down below in the focus area already.
Regarding the use of light grey, please think of using good contrast colours, e.g. datasets/software links look a bit too light in the mock-up. (Recall the COD2 feedback from visually impaired users.)
The leading illustrative pictures for Learn-Visualise-Analyse are somehow dissonant in style, some look flat, some scattered, some 3D-like... Would you be able to find illustrations of more similar style from the original design stack?
After the L-V-A page is transformed into a real web page, if there will be too much of free space, then we could think of enlarging L-V-A titles and introducing one catch phrase under each title to introduce what the collection of links below will be. Something like:
No leading illustrative picture for News-and-Updates? Might be nice to have one for consistency .
FYI
same for search example, I just added it for a more advanced example of search, which i think it is nice to have ( please also add search examples on first comment - for now I will add energy:7TeV
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Regarding colors: We can sit all together on the Friday meeting and decide about the colors (easiest thing is to make everything black and white like official CERN site - no contrast issues )
Regarding illustrations: I just got the ones we had from Eammon's design. If anybody has some suggestion please provide also ( have in mind that they should be of the same style - meaning they should look good together, and rest of portal)
OK for sub-titles . IMHO I think it would be too much to add more content, since on smaller screens as is it will look ok, but with more content we would have placement issues (but we can recheck when prototype is on DEV)
Again, IMHO I like it clean, since it's going to be something like a banner with news, nothing else is needed. But, same as point 4, provided the illustrations we can try it
@tiborsimko which illustrations are you referring to when you say "original deck"? I personally don't think it is a big deal that they are 2/3D. @daslerr can you look at the wording suggestions, please? @pamfilos ok for Friday (from my side)
@suenjedt I meant the various logo-like graphic illustrations that Eamonn had in his design document deck, such as the "unversity hat" or the "interconnected network blob"; @ioannistsanaktsidis briefly showed them on his laptop yesterday. I think we should be able to find there three similar ones that we could use for the L-V-A illustration purposes, and that would be also more look-alike in the same flat-like 2D-like style... which would give a more consistent, nicer look.
(We could also explore icons8.com that we used for the Invenio home page; but I think there should be enough ready-to-be-used ones in Eamonn's deck.)
I agree with the 1 PB vs. 1 petabyte suggestion, so I've updated the first comment with that.
I agree with @pamfilos that adding subtitles seems like too much for the boxes, so I didn't add anything about those. I also agree about not needing a leading illustration for news.
For the "focus on" suggestion by @ArtemisLav, I'm not sure what to change it to. If we want to stick with a verb, "generated by" would be descriptive, but I don't know that I like it better. (Then it also kind of makes a sentence, e.g. "Explore software generated by ATLAS." I'm not clear whether that's a good thing. :) ) Otherwise, if we're not settled on verbs, "experiments" seems to be the most common word people use, but it's not super catchy. @RaoOfPhysics, as a communications guy, do you have any suggestions?
I agree that a verb is ideal, given the rest of the "do words" on the page. If we were to change:
that might work. I've spent a while considering options and going through a thesaurus, and this makes the most sense to me. "Find" does have thematic overlap with "Search", though.
What do others think?
"Find" does have thematic overlap with "Search", though.
Indeed, that's what I feel as well... Besides, we are not "exploring CMS" as it were, only narrowing down our own content... I like more "explore" on the left and "focus" on the right.
I also agree about not needing a leading illustration for news.
I like consistency, so if the other three bxes have leading illustrative graphics, why not the fourth? Better have them all, or remove them all... Anyway, regrding this and regaring the possible catch phrases, we shall see better how it fits when there is a real prototype.
Thanks for the word investigation, everyone. For the sake of simplicity and efficiency, let's just stick with "explore" and "focus on". If it seems to cause users problems, we can change.
New homepage organisation is fully implemented; closing. Let's deal with remaining issues (final selection of links, final style prettification) in subsequent issues.
This summarizes what we discussed yesterday about changing the organization of the homepage and includes the specific articles to link to in the various sections.
TOP (Conceptually, the "records" section.)
MIDDLE (Conceptually, the "stuff to read" section.) First box: Title = "Learn".
Second box: Title = "Visualise".
Third box: Title = "Analyse".
BOTTOM (Conceptually, the "fun/extra stuff" section.)