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Standard names: *Global average sea level change due to water mass budget* #314

Open abiardeau opened 3 weeks ago

abiardeau commented 3 weeks ago

Hello, I am Aurore BIARDEAU from Mercator Ocean international, working for Copernicus Marine service. Date : 13-05-2024

We are in the process of implementing a new variable in the Copernicus Marine service and we would be happy to have your feedback on our proposal :

standard_name : global_average_sea_level_change_due_to_water_mass_budget definition : Global average mass volume sea level change is caused by water mass balance (evaporation – precipitation + runoff). This in turn results in a change in volume of the world ocean. Zero sea level change is an arbitrary level. Because global average sea level change quantifies the change in volume of the world ocean, it is not calculated necessarily by considering local changes in mean sea level

I can provide more information from my expert colleagues if needed, Kind regards, Aurore

github-actions[bot] commented 3 weeks ago

Thank you for your proposal. These terms will be added to the cfeditor (http://cfeditor.ceda.ac.uk/proposals/1) shortly. Your proposal will then be reviewed and commented on by the community and Standard Names moderator.

JonathanGregory commented 2 weeks ago

Dear Aurore @abiardeau

By "due to water mass budget" do you mean "due to change in ocean mass" i.e. barystatic sea level change?

Best wishes

Jonathan

abiardeau commented 2 weeks ago

Yes, that is what we mean. Would _barystatic be more appropriate ? Or _due_to_change_in_ocean_mass ?

Thanks, Aurore

JonathanGregory commented 2 weeks ago

I think due_to_change_in_ocean_mass is better for a CF standard name, because it's self-explanatory. The description should mention that this quantity is called "barystatic sea level change" in scientific literature, but "barystatic" is not (yet!) a generally well-known word.

efisher008 commented 2 weeks ago

Dear Aurore,

Thank you for your proposal, I have added the term to the CF editor. If you are happy with @JonathanGregory's suggestion of global_average_sea_level_change_due_to_change_in_ocean_mass, I can make this change in the editor. Perhaps we can also add the text "This quantity is also called "barystatic sea level change"."

Would a definition of barystatic in the CF phrasebank be appropriate @JonathanGregory? Something along the lines of " Barystatic refers to the effect of addition or removal, to or from the ocean, of water mass that formerly resided within the land area (as land water storage or land ice) or in the atmosphere (which contains a relatively tiny mass of water)", following the description of the term barystatic sea level rise in the following paper.

Best regards, Ellie

JonathanGregory commented 2 weeks ago

I agree that it would be useful to mention "barystatic" in the definition of global_average_sea_level_change_due_to_change_in_ocean_mass. "Barystatic" is a word that was invented for the phrase "barystatic sea level rise", so it would be better to quote to the whole phrase, I think:

This quantity is also called "barystatic sea level rise" or "barystatic sea level change". It is the part of global-mean sea-level rise which is due to the addition to the ocean of water mass that formerly resided within the land area (as land water storage or land ice) or in the atmosphere (which contains a relatively tiny mass of water).

abiardeau commented 1 week ago

Thanks for your precisions ! I am happy with Jonathan' suggestion of global_average_sea_level_change_due_to_change_in_ocean_mass and agree that we can mention barystatic in the definition