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Bosch C Harness #1298

Open vanillagorillaa opened 1 year ago

vanillagorillaa commented 1 year ago

Reported on Discord by user "Kevmaninc". Unknown connector part number. Will have to grab wiring diagram from Honda Techinfo. Unknown camera module. No marking on underside of camera. Will assign proper harness name once more information is obtained.

Kevmaninc commented 1 year ago

IMG_5965 IMG_5967

This is what the connector looks like. The black one on the left is for Honda Pilot 2023 and the grey one on the right is the old Honda Pilot 2017-2022 connector.

vanillagorillaa commented 1 year ago

@Kevmaninc Can you please provide more clear photos of both front and back, as well as the bottom and top, of the connector? Usually you can see markings in the plastic that can help determine the part number.

vanillagorillaa commented 1 year ago

This TE connectivity connector looks like it may be a close match, https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/te-connectivity-amp-connectors/1318386-2/9925408

Kevmaninc commented 1 year ago

This TE connectivity connector looks like it may be a close match, https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/te-connectivity-amp-connectors/1318386-2/9925408

It’s close but when you take a closer look, the distance between the top and bottom pin holes is a bit further apart.

Kevmaninc commented 1 year ago

I think I found the number you need for the part. See the pic. GT25-16DS-HU IMG_5982

Kevmaninc commented 1 year ago

IMG_5987 IMG_5985 IMG_5986 IMG_5983

Kevmaninc commented 1 year ago

Here is a link to Chinese site I found for that connector.

https://www.yixiandianzi.com/lianjieqi/309.html

vanillagorillaa commented 1 year ago

GT25-16DS-HU

Yes, this appears to be the correct part number. This connector can be purchased on Mouser, no need for a Chinese clone.

Kevmaninc commented 1 year ago

OK so what you are saying is that I just need a male and female version of this and I should wire them up myself? I noticed that the old pilot connector has 11 wires while the new one has only 6. Is there anyone that can do this wiring and I can just buy it the same way as any other harness from the comma website?

vanillagorillaa commented 1 year ago

IMG_6375 Sharing @Kevmaninc 's picture of the camera from discord for documentation

Mr-Peter-Ng commented 1 year ago

@Kevmaninc i also own a 2023 Pilot Touring, I was wondering if you’ve found something (adapter) to help me connect my comma 3 to my vehicle. I currently also have the Nidec harness that isn’t a proper fit.

Kevmaninc commented 1 year ago

So yeah we actually got the connector made and working, however the software is having issues so we are still working on figuring this out.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 14, 2023, at 8:08 PM, Mr-Peter-Ng @.***> wrote: @Kevmaninc i also own a 2023 Pilot Touring, I was wondering if you’ve found something (adapter) to help me connect my comma 3 to my vehicle. I currently also have the Nidec harness that isn’t a proper fit.

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Mr-Peter-Ng commented 1 year ago

Would you be kind enough to share a link on where I could get the correct connector & possibly some photos of your current wiring so I’d be able to rig it up myself. Unless you have an extra I could purchase that’s already pre wired. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 15, 2023, at 4:54 AM, Kevmaninc @.> wrote: So yeah we actually got the connector made and working, however the software is having issues so we are still working on figuring this out.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 14, 2023, at 8:08 PM, Mr-Peter-Ng @.> wrote:

@Kevmaninc i also own a 2023 Pilot Touring, I was wondering if you’ve found something (adapter) to help me connect my comma 3 to my vehicle. I currently also have the Nidec harness that isn’t a proper fit.

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Kevmaninc commented 1 year ago

The wire is not available for purchase yet because there is no official support. If you want to join the testing team to see if we can get this thing running maybe vanillagorilla from the comma team can send you the wire and see if between my pilot and your pilot we can get things running. Do you have comma 3?Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 15, 2023, at 9:10 AM, Mr-Peter-Ng @.> wrote: Would you be kind enough to share a link on where I could get the correct connector & possibly some photos of your current wiring so I’d be able to rig it up myself. Unless you have an extra I could purchase that’s already pre wired. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 15, 2023, at 4:54 AM, Kevmaninc @.> wrote:

So yeah we actually got the connector made and working, however the software is having issues so we are still working on figuring this out.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 14, 2023, at 8:08 PM, Mr-Peter-Ng @.***> wrote:

@Kevmaninc i also own a 2023 Pilot Touring, I was wondering if you’ve found something (adapter) to help me connect my comma 3 to my vehicle. I currently also have the Nidec harness that isn’t a proper fit.

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Mr-Peter-Ng commented 1 year ago

Yes I’ll reach out to vanillagorilla Also yes I have the comma 3Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 15, 2023, at 11:55 AM, Kevmaninc @.> wrote: The wire is not available for purchase yet because there is no official support. If you want to join the testing team to see if we can get this thing running maybe vanillagorilla from the comma team can send you the wire and see if between my pilot and your pilot we can get things running. Do you have comma 3?Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 15, 2023, at 9:10 AM, Mr-Peter-Ng @.> wrote:

Would you be kind enough to share a link on where I could get the correct connector & possibly some photos of your current wiring so I’d be able to rig it up myself. Unless you have an extra I could purchase that’s already pre wired. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 15, 2023, at 4:54 AM, Kevmaninc @.***> wrote:

So yeah we actually got the connector made and working, however the software is having issues so we are still working on figuring this out.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 14, 2023, at 8:08 PM, Mr-Peter-Ng @.***> wrote:

@Kevmaninc i also own a 2023 Pilot Touring, I was wondering if you’ve found something (adapter) to help me connect my comma 3 to my vehicle. I currently also have the Nidec harness that isn’t a proper fit.

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Kevmaninc commented 1 year ago

Hopefully between our two Hondas and the comma team we can get it running.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 15, 2023, at 3:33 PM, Mr-Peter-Ng @.> wrote: Yes I’ll reach out to vanillagorilla Also yes I have the comma 3Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 15, 2023, at 11:55 AM, Kevmaninc @.> wrote:

The wire is not available for purchase yet because there is no official support. If you want to join the testing team to see if we can get this thing running maybe vanillagorilla from the comma team can send you the wire and see if between my pilot and your pilot we can get things running. Do you have comma 3?Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 15, 2023, at 9:10 AM, Mr-Peter-Ng @.***> wrote:

Would you be kind enough to share a link on where I could get the correct connector & possibly some photos of your current wiring so I’d be able to rig it up myself. Unless you have an extra I could purchase that’s already pre wired. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 15, 2023, at 4:54 AM, Kevmaninc @.***> wrote:

So yeah we actually got the connector made and working, however the software is having issues so we are still working on figuring this out.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 14, 2023, at 8:08 PM, Mr-Peter-Ng @.***> wrote:

@Kevmaninc i also own a 2023 Pilot Touring, I was wondering if you’ve found something (adapter) to help me connect my comma 3 to my vehicle. I currently also have the Nidec harness that isn’t a proper fit.

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Mr-Peter-Ng commented 1 year ago

@vanillagorillaa hello, my name is Peter I’m interested with getting into contact to possibly joining the comma beta testing group to help provide feedback for the comma 3 on my 2023 Honda Pilot Elite. But first I’m looking at acquiring the proper harness/adapter.

Kevmaninc commented 1 year ago

Peter please join the DISCORD channels and friend me on Discord: @Kevmaninc

OmarWazzan commented 1 year ago

hey hey - any update on this? thinking of buying a ‘23 accord for Openpilot

Kevmaninc commented 1 year ago

As of now COMMA is not prioritizing this and it is their lowest priority. At this point it is unknown as to when or if they can get this up and running.

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hey hey - any update on this? thinking of buying a ‘23 accord for Openpilot

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sshane commented 1 year ago

Is anyone working on the port for these vehicles? Are there any routes with rlogs I can take a look at?

vanillagorillaa commented 1 year ago

Is anyone working on the port for these vehicles? Are there any routes with rlogs I can take a look at?

Sent you routes via DM a while ago

sshane commented 1 year ago

See discussion about the port here: https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/discussions/29825

cppctek commented 1 year ago

are you needing any one else to test it on a 2023 honda accord? I have one and I would love to test it at my own risk and help out with the process. I have a background in both automotive and tech. I would love to help if you would allow me the opportunity. I am very hardware savy.

nate-z commented 1 year ago

Let me know if anyone needs testing done or support for the 2023 CR-V Hybrid Touring, I am more than happy to help in any way I can to get this car ported and supported.

Mr-Peter-Ng commented 1 year ago

I’m not quite sure testing is the issue, I think we just need to find more people to help solve the software and figure out what’s wrong with the code & why it’s continually being rejected by the vehicle, & all the dashboard error lights. Until this is solved, I don’t think having more vehicles will make a difference. I will say the new refreshed 2022 civic has the same interior steering wheel & was updated to the new body style by Honda & currently that is the only known vehicle to work with the newest Hondas. Of the new refreshed/redesigned generations of pilots, accords & crv’s, Civic is the only known vehicle to work with openpilot.

smtermini commented 1 year ago

I, too, just got a new car. I was driving a 2016 Civic and loved this add-on, and I just got an Accord 2024; if you need any testers, please feel free to let me know. I'm happy to test.

Jgw868 commented 1 year ago

I too have a 2023 honda accord hybrid touring, and a comma 3x, would really love to help crack the code get this one running if someone can catch me up to speed

vanillagorillaa commented 1 year ago

Logs from a test user show that Honda is now using CAN-FD on the radar bus. This will mean that either a Red Panda is needed (if using a comma 3), or a 3X will be needed.

This resolves the unknown cause of the vehicle dashboard alerts. I will move this new harness into production and will have on the shop for purchase in the coming weeks.

cwmayes commented 1 year ago

@vanillagorillaa Is the plan to still add the harness to production or is this still being worked? Thanks

akshat-ja commented 10 months ago

I'm getting a CR-V 2024 and will test out the 3X on that soon.

Bensoncheong626 commented 9 months ago

i'm getting a stepwgn 2022 use new Bosch camera , how can i buy the cable?

shahrk commented 7 months ago

I'm getting a CR-V 2024 and will test out the 3X on that soon.

@akshat-ja Were you able to get it to work?

tomngu96 commented 6 months ago

For everyone following along at home, I don't forsee the bosch-c being added to the shop in the near future but we have made some fun discoveries and several people have successfully built their own harness and got the 11th gen accord running with the bosch-c harness. It seems the pilot is also functional.

I documented some things like how to build the harness here https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/wiki/Honda-Bosch%E2%80%90C

I am selling some of the connectors I built on the comma discord @Bensoncheong626 and whoever else is interested though I am not sure if your car is actually using the newest bosch setup.

Jgw868 commented 6 months ago

hell yeah brother!! I will have to build my own harnesss then if someone can point me in the right direction with any parts I may need or any instructions if available, I would love to get my 2023 honda accord hybrid touring up and running!! my comma x has been sitting mounted in the car since i got it in august last year...havent fully completed the install due to no harness. If anyone can give me a few pointers I will be eternally grateful!!!

thank you!!

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On Sun, May 5, 2024, 02:32 tomngu96 @.***> wrote:

For everyone following along at home, I don't forsee the bosch-c being added to the shop in the near future but we have made some fun discoveries and several people have successfully built their own harness and got the 11th gen accord running with the bosch-c harness. It seems the pilot is also functional.

I documented some things like how to build the harness here https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/wiki/Honda-Bosch%E2%80%90C

I am selling some of the connectors I built on the comma discord @Bensoncheong626 https://github.com/Bensoncheong626 and whoever else is interested though I am not sure if your car is actually using the newest bosch setup.

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shahrk commented 6 months ago

@tomngu96 How much are you selling for? I am not on the discord but I am interested for making comma work on my 2023 CR-V

tomngu96 commented 6 months ago

@Jgw868 Here's the guide I created with pictures, videos, and a parts/tools list so that anyone can make their own if they want https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/wiki/Honda-Bosch%E2%80%90C

@shahrk I've emailed you so as to not have an unrelated and long discussion on this issue. The synopsis is $100 to match comma's price. I'll give steep discounts to people who've donated to the cart port before today or who have contributed to comma/op

Jgw868 commented 6 months ago

@tomngu96 Awesome, thanks for the info! I think I donated $100 to the gofundme for the port and i think it's worth every penny

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EfrB commented 4 months ago

For everyone following along at home, I don't forsee the bosch-c being added to the shop in the near future but we have made some fun discoveries and several people have successfully built their own harness and got the 11th gen accord running with the bosch-c harness. It seems the pilot is also functional.

I documented some things like how to build the harness here https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/wiki/Honda-Bosch%E2%80%90C

I am selling some of the connectors I built on the comma discord @Bensoncheong626 and whoever else is interested though I am not sure if your car is actually using the newest bosch setup.

Is there any still available? I'm looking for hardness for my Honda Odyssey 2024

I'm not on discord.

tomngu96 commented 4 months ago

I believe the odyssey is not bosch c yet but could be wrong. I believe at least the 23 odyssey is a bosch A from chatting with someone on discord

Here's an odyssey thread https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/discussions/2349?sort=new#discussioncomment-8248688

You can send pictures of your harness to me on discord or via email and I can try to help steer you in the right direction. I prefer discord as thats also where you'll likely find people with odysseys

My email is my github name @gmail.com

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For everyone following along at home, I don't forsee the bosch-c being added to the shop in the near future but we have made some fun discoveries and several people have successfully built their own harness and got the 11th gen accord running with the bosch-c harness. It seems the pilot is also functional.

I documented some things like how to build the harness here https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/wiki/Honda-Bosch%E2%80%90C

I am selling some of the connectors I built on the comma discord @Bensoncheong626 https://github.com/Bensoncheong626 and whoever else is interested though I am not sure if your car is actually using the newest bosch setup.

Is there any still available? I'm looking for hardness for my Honda Odyssey 2024

I'm not on discord.

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EfrB commented 4 months ago

I believe the odyssey is not bosch c yet but could be wrong. I believe at least the 23 odyssey is a bosch A from chatting with someone on discord

Here's an odyssey thread https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/discussions/2349?sort=new#discussioncomment-8248688

You can send pictures of your harness to me on discord or via email and I can try to help steer you in the right direction. I prefer discord as thats also where you'll likely find people with odysseys

My email is my github name @gmail.com

On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 10:07 AM EfrB @.***> wrote:

For everyone following along at home, I don't forsee the bosch-c being added to the shop in the near future but we have made some fun discoveries and several people have successfully built their own harness and got the 11th gen accord running with the bosch-c harness. It seems the pilot is also functional.

I documented some things like how to build the harness here https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/wiki/Honda-Bosch%E2%80%90C

I am selling some of the connectors I built on the comma discord @Bensoncheong626 https://github.com/Bensoncheong626 and whoever else is interested though I am not sure if your car is actually using the newest bosch setup.

Is there any still available? I'm looking for hardness for my Honda Odyssey 2024

I'm not on discord.

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You're right. It will need the Bosch A with some software adjustments.