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darklordabc / Legends-of-Dota-Redux

A Custom Game for Dota 2
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Do something about this combo #1415

Closed darklordabc closed 6 years ago

darklordabc commented 6 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZBuUCdDVI0&feature=youtu.be

OtsoTurpeinen commented 6 years ago

There is somethings to analyze here: 1) Global Ultimate + Multicast 2) Flat 15 second cooldown reduction (on 20 second cooldown global ultimate) 3) Spell Amp % from Int. 4) Total damage amp of 28%(400 int) + 10% (Kaya) + 40% (Blood Rage) = 78%

Techmind commented 6 years ago

Just make blademail ignore fountain's 100% resists. Will wreck that combo hard with 2k gold item.

Techmind commented 6 years ago

Once again souls spells/flesh heap are unbalanced because they allow you to snowball. Also item like blademail-2(saw it somewhere maybe "dota imba") which returns PURe dmg will fuck any "attack from fountain build".

OtsoTurpeinen commented 6 years ago

the souls already have soft limit of 250 at max level. so it only provides in this case max of 187.5 int.

darklordabc commented 6 years ago

I'm feeling that the worst part of this combo is the wraith of nature + multicast. Even if you got rid of all the other abilities, wouldn't that combo still be pretty devastating?

OtsoTurpeinen commented 6 years ago

That blademail might be good idea. Would work against other fountain wankery as well. Or put fountain bonus on pause when hero deals damage. (like tranquil boots but lower cooldown)

darklordabc commented 6 years ago

Is blademail fix enough? One, not all players would know thats the counter, two, they would probably only buy blademail after the enemy hero has made a rampage or two, and three, the enemy casting the spell could counter the blademail by for example, having lots of HP or using cyclone staff.

OtsoTurpeinen commented 6 years ago

No Multicast on Ultimates?

Techmind commented 6 years ago

Yeah, eul/bkb sort of counters blademail in that case, good point.

Techmind commented 6 years ago

1) Can we have fountain debuff, so y cant dmg heroes unless they are on your HG ? To counter fountain spamming. So at least hero is vulnerable.

2) Actually only natures wrath + that passive (see heroes on creep kill) is sort-of-broken, cause getting 250+ souls is fast with nature`s wrath, but 250 souls is same as casting bloodlust in terms of magick dmg % increase, so not that broken. And flesh heap spell amp or survival of fittest spell amp can accomplish same stuff.

Even without multicast you can reach 1-shot threshold after getting 10-20 stacks of flesh heap and any global spell will become one shot (sunstrike/zeus ulty). Dunno maybe this is legit combo, the video is minute 23, that guy died 1 time only, by that time many heroes who don't have counters can snowball.