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ESP8266 firmware to read and control EMS and Heatronic compatible equipment such as boilers, thermostats, solar modules, and heat pumps
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Rc20 regulator, unknown? (Version:02.01 ProductID:113 DeviceID:0x17) #361

Closed pitulek closed 4 years ago

pitulek commented 4 years ago

Hi, why my ems-esp does not recognizes Rc20 regulator? It says unknown? (Version:02.01 ProductID:113 DeviceID:0x17), propably is the id is problem, how to repair that?

my buderus is LOGOMATIC U052-28 and is recognized as : Bosch Condens 2500/Buderus Logamax GB062/Junkers Cerapur Top/Worcester Greenstar i/Generic HT3 (Version:13.04 ProductID:95 DeviceID:0x08)

thank you very much for your help

Piotr

pitulek commented 4 years ago

I have changed to dev build software and now it says Sieger ES72 (DeviceID: 0x17, ProductID: 113, Version: 02.01) the temp is ok but mode is undefined.

pitulek commented 4 years ago

pictures of the system IMG_20200405_125256 IMG_20200405_125330 IMG_20200405_125323

Zrzut ekranu z 2020-04-05 12-58-23 Zrzut ekranu z 2020-04-05 12-17-41

proddy commented 4 years ago

hi, the mode should be coming on telegram type 0xA8 for your RC20. I do see the 0xAE coming in which is used to determine if the mode is in day or night. But I'm not too familiar with this thermostat. Which modes does it actually support?

What you could do to help is thermostat read a8 and thermostat read ae before and after you have manually changed the mode on your thermostat. And then we can compare the differences and figure out where the information is stored in the telegram.

pitulek commented 4 years ago

The rc20 suports 3 modes, auto, night, day. i cannot read thermostat nothing happen , when i write command /thermostat read a8 / also thermostat read.

night mode teleggrams 0xae 17 00 AE 00 00 00 27 00 CE 00 00 00 (#DATA8) day mode 17 00 AE 00 80 02 29 00 CE 00 00 00 (#DATA8)

auto(DAY) 17 00 AE 00 04 02 29 00 CE 00 00 00 (#DATA8)

there is no telegram 0xa8

only 0x35 0x1a 0xae

proddy commented 4 years ago

ok, I can use this info. When you do a info command in telnet does it show the mode and mode type? Forget the web interface for now, it's old and I'm busy renewing it.

pitulek commented 4 years ago

no information about the mode info

proddy commented 4 years ago

but 'mode type' is shown right? like night or day?

pitulek commented 4 years ago

no info about mode only temp carrent and set , nothing else

proddy commented 4 years ago

ok. I'll look into it.

pitulek commented 4 years ago

if i use the command : thermostat type setting thermostat mode to unknown

pitulek commented 4 years ago

night mode log System Logging set to Thermostat only (16:05:37) Thermostat -> Boiler, UBASetPoints(0x1A), telegram: 17 08 1A 00 00 00 00 00 (#data=4) (16:05:42) Thermostat -> Boiler, UBAFlags(0x35), telegram: 17 08 35 00 01 01 (#data=2) (16:05:47) Thermostat -> All, RC20StatusMessage3(0xAE), telegram: 17 00 AE 00 00 00 29 00 CF FF FF 00 (#data=8) Fetching data from EMS devices (16:06:11) Thermostat -> Me, telegram: 17 0B 91 00 (16:06:11) Thermostat -> Me, telegram: 17 0B A8 00 (16:06:12) Thermostat -> Me, telegram: 17 0B 06 00 (16:06:37) Thermostat -> Boiler, UBASetPoints(0x1A), telegram: 17 08 1A 00 00 00 00 00 (#data=4) (16:06:42) Thermostat -> Boiler, UBAFlags(0x35), telegram: 17 08 35 00 01 01 (#data=2) (16:06:48) Thermostat -> All, RC20StatusMessage3(0xAE), telegram: 17 00 AE 00 00 00 29 00 CF FF FF 00 (#data=8) Fetching data from EMS devices (16:07:11) Thermostat -> Me, telegram: 17 0B 91 00 (16:07:11) Thermostat -> Me, telegram: 17 0B A8 00 (16:07:12) Thermostat -> Me, telegram: 17 0B 06 00 (16:07:37) Thermostat -> Boiler, UBASetPoints(0x1A), telegram: 17 08 1A 00 00 00 00 00 (#data=4) (16:07:42) Thermostat -> Boiler, UBAFlags(0x35), telegram: 17 08 35 00 01 01 (#data=2) (16:07:48) Thermostat -> All, RC20StatusMessage3(0xAE), telegram:

pitulek commented 4 years ago

day mode log

(16:09:23) Thermostat -> Boiler, UBASetPoints(0x1A), telegram: 17 08 1A 00 25 64 64 00 (#data=4) (16:09:23) Thermostat -> Boiler, UBAFlags(0x35), telegram: 17 08 35 00 11 11 (#data=2) (16:09:30) Thermostat -> Boiler, UBASetPoints(0x1A), telegram: 17 08 1A 00 00 00 64 00 (#data=4) (16:09:33) Thermostat -> Boiler, UBASetPoints(0x1A), telegram: 17 08 1A 00 00 00 00 00 (#data=4) (16:09:33) Thermostat -> All, RC20StatusMessage2(0xAD), telegram: 17 00 AD 00 01 27 29 01 4B 05 01 FF 28 19 0A 02 00 00 (#data=14) (16:09:48) Thermostat -> All, RC20StatusMessage3(0xAE), telegram: 17 00 AE 00 88 02 29 00 CF FF FF 00 (#data=8) Fetching data from EMS devices (16:10:11) Thermostat -> Me, telegram: 17 0B 91 00 (16:10:11) Thermostat -> Me, telegram: 17 0B A8 00 (16:10:11) Thermostat -> Me, telegram: 17 0B 06 00 (16:10:23) Thermostat -> Boiler, UBAFlags(0x35), telegram: 17 08 35 00 11 11 (#data=2) (16:10:33) Thermostat -> Boiler, UBASetPoints(0x1A), telegram: 17 08 1A 00 00 00 00 00 (#data=4) (16:10:49) Thermostat -> All, RC20StatusMessage3(0xAE), telegram: 17 00 AE 00 88 02 29 00 CF FF FF 00 (#data=8) Fetching data from EMS devices (16:11:10) Thermostat -> Me, telegram: 17 0B 91 00 (16:11:10) Thermostat -> Me, telegram: 17 0B A8 00 (16:11:11) Thermostat -> Me, telegram: 17 0B 06 00 (16:11:23) Thermostat -> Boiler, UBAFlags(0x35), telegram: 17 08 35 00 11 11 (#data=2) (16:11:33) Thermostat -> Boiler, UBASetPoints(0x1A), telegram: 17 08 1A 00 00 00 00 00 (#data=4) (16:11:49) Thermostat -> All, RC20StatusMessage3(0xAE), telegram: 17 00 AE 00 88 02 29 00 CF FF FF 00 (#data=8) Fetching data from EMS devices (16:12:10) Thermostat -> Me, telegram: 17 0B 91 00 (16:12:11) Thermostat -> Me, telegram: 17 0B A8 00 (16:12:11) Thermostat -> Me, telegram: 17 0B 06 00 (16:12:24) Thermostat -> Boiler, UBAFlags(0x35), telegram: 17 08 35 00 11 11 (#data=2) (16:12:33) Thermostat -> Boiler, UBASetPoints(0x1A), telegram: 17 08 1A 00 00 00 00 00 (#data=4) (16:12:34) Thermostat -> Boiler, UBAMaintenanceStatusMessage(0x1C), telegram: 17 88 1C 00 06 (#data=1) (16:12:34) Boiler -> Thermostat, UBAMaintenanceStatusMessage(0x1C), telegram: 08 17 1C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 (#data=6) (16:12:36) Thermostat -> Controller, Type(0x29), telegram: 17 89 29 00 01 (#data=1) (16:12:36) Controller -> Thermostat, Type(0x29), telegram: 09 17 29 00 7B (#data=1) (16:12:49) Thermostat -> All, RC20StatusMessage3(0xAE), telegram: 17 00 AE 00 88 02 29 00 CF FF FF 00 (#data=8)

pitulek commented 4 years ago

AUTO Fetching data from EMS devices (16:16:10) Thermostat -> Me, telegram: 17 0B 91 00 (16:16:11) Thermostat -> Me, telegram: 17 0B A8 00 (16:16:11) Thermostat -> Me, telegram: 17 0B 06 00 (16:16:24) Thermostat -> Boiler, UBAFlags(0x35), telegram: 17 08 35 00 11 11 (#data=2) (16:16:33) Thermostat -> Boiler, UBASetPoints(0x1A), telegram: 17 08 1A 00 00 00 00 00 (#data=4) (16:16:50) Thermostat -> All, RC20StatusMessage3(0xAE), telegram: 17 00 AE 00 0C 02 29 00 CF FF FF 00 (#data=8) Fetching data from EMS devices (16:17:10) Thermostat -> Me, telegram: 17 0B 91 00 (16:17:10) Thermostat -> Me, telegram: 17 0B A8 00 (16:17:11) Thermostat -> Me, telegram: 17 0B 06 00 (16:17:24) Thermostat -> Boiler, UBAFlags(0x35), telegram: 17 08 35 00 11 11 (#data=2) (16:17:34) Thermostat -> Boiler, UBASetPoints(0x1A), telegram: 17 08 1A 00 00 00 00 00 (#data=4) (16:17:50) Thermostat -> All, RC20StatusMessage3(0xAE), telegram: 17 00 AE 00 0C 02 29 00 CF FF FF 00 (#data=8)

pitulek commented 4 years ago

info EMS-ESP system status: System logging set to Thermostat only LED: on, Listen mode: off Boiler: enabled, Thermostat: enabled, Solar Module: disabled, Mixing Module: disabled Shower Timer: disabled, Shower Alert: disabled Saved known device IDs: none

EMS Bus status: Bus is connected, protocol: Buderus Rx: # successful read requests=324, # CRC errors=0 Tx: Last poll=1.250 seconds ago, # successful write requests=3

Boiler data: Boiler: Bosch Condens 2500/Buderus Logamax GB062/Junkers Cerapur Top/Worcester Greenstar i/Generic HT3 (DeviceID: 0x08, ProductID: 95, Version: 13.04) Hot tap water: off Central heating: off Warm Water activated: on Warm Water circulation pump available: off Warm Water circulation pump type: charge pump Warm Water circulation pump freq: 2x3min Warm Water comfort setting: Hot Warm Water selected temperature: 40 C Warm Water desinfection temperature: 70 C Warm Water circulation active: off Warm Water set temperature: 40 C Warm Water current temperature: 42.7 C Warm water temperature (intern): ? C Warm water temperature (extern): ? C Warm Water current temperature (extern): 42.7 C Warm Water current tap water flow: 0.0 l/min Warm Water # starts: 7545 times Warm Water active time: 63 days 6 hours 8 minutes Warm Water 3-way valve: off Selected flow temperature: 0 C Current flow temperature: 22.9 C Max boiler temperature: ? C Return temperature: ? C Gas: off Boiler pump: on Fan: off Ignition: off Circulation pump: off Burner selected max power: 0 % Burner current power: 0 % Flame current: 3200.0 uA System pressure: ? bar System service code: 0H (203) Heating temperature setting on the boiler: 60 C Boiler circuit pump modulation max power: 100 % Boiler circuit pump modulation min power: 10 % Exhaust temperature: ? C Pump modulation: 100 % Burner # starts: 21381 times Total burner operating time: 269 days 17 hours 9 minutes Total heat operating time: 206 days 11 hours 0 minutes Total UBA working time: 2468 days 21 hours 1 minutes

Thermostat data: Thermostat: Sieger ES72 (DeviceID: 0x17, ProductID: 113, Version: 02.01) Heating Circuit 1 Current room temperature: 20.8 C Setpoint room temperature: 19.5 C

pitulek commented 4 years ago

Thermostat -> Me, telegram: 17 0B 91 00 (21:46:58) Thermostat -> Me, telegram: 17 0B A8 00 (21:46:59) Thermostat -> Me, telegram: 17 0B 06 00 (21:47:04) Thermostat -> Boiler, UBASetPoints(0x1A), telegram: 17 08 1A 00 00 00 00 00 (#data=4) (21:47:06) Thermostat -> Boiler, UBAFlags(0x35), telegram: 17 08 35 00 01 01 (#data=2) (21:47:25) Thermostat -> All, RC20StatusMessage3(0xAE), telegram: 17 00 AE 00 00 00 26 00 CE 00 00 00 (#data=8) i found that there is no response from thermostat to commands 0x06, 0xa8, 0x91

as to the 0xAE 17 00 AE 00 00 00 26 00 CE 00 00 00

26 IS set temperature , CE is current temp and 00 00 before 26 is night mode

8002 is day mode 0400 auto/night 0402 is auto/day

pitulek commented 4 years ago

maybe it could help too

telegram ad (22:37:07) Thermostat -> Me, RC20StatusMessage2(0xAD), telegram: 17 0B AD 00 01 26 28 00 4B 05 01 FF 28 19 0A 03 00 00 (#data=14) (22:41:18) Thermostat -> Me, RC20StatusMessage2(0xAD), telegram: 17 0B AD 00 01 26 28 00 4B 05 01 FF 28 19 0A 03 00 00 (#data=14) (22:44:53) Thermostat -> Me, RC20StatusMessage2(0xAD), telegram: 17 0B AD 00 01 24 28 00 4B 05 01 FF 28 19 0A 03 00 00 (#data=14) (22:50:05) Thermostat -> Me, RC20StatusMessage2(0xAD), telegram: 17 0B AD 00 01 24 28 00 4B 05 01 FF 28 19 0A 02 00 00 (#data=14) (22:52:24) Thermostat -> Me, RC20StatusMessage2(0xAD), telegram: 17 0B AD 00 01 24 28 00 4B 05 01 FF 28 19 0A 01 00 00 (#data=14)

there is information about set temeperatures , mode, and set programm

MichaelDvP commented 4 years ago

Looks very similar to the 3D/3E telegrams of RC35, (see https://emswiki.thefischer.net/doku.php?id=wiki:ems:telegramme). So AD reads: 17 0B AD 00 01 24 28 00 4B 05 01 FF 28 19 0A 01 00 00 thermostat 17 to emsesp 0B, type AD, offset 00: 01 - heating by radiator 24- nighttemp 18°C 28-daytemp 20°C 00- ? 4B- max flow 75°C 05- min flow 5°C

and telegram AE: 17 00 AE 00 00 00 26 00 CE 00 00 00 00- Bitfield bit 7 manual, bit 2 automatic 00- bitfield bit 1 day-mode (bit 0 summermode?) 26- actual settemp 19°C 00CE - actual roomtemp 20.6°C

But why is actual settemp in AE different from night-settting in AD and manual-bit not set? Can you check these values by chaning them while logging?

pitulek commented 4 years ago

Thermostat -> All, RC20StatusMessage2(0xAD), telegram: 17 00 AD 00 01 24 28 00 4B 05 01 FF 28 19 0A 01 00 00 (#data=14 Thermostat -> All, RC20StatusMessage2(0xAD), telegram: 17 00 AD 00 01 24 28 01 4B 05 01 FF 28 19 0A 01 00 00 (#data=14) Thermostat -> All, RC20StatusMessage2(0xAD), telegram: 17 00 AD 00 01 24 28 02 4B 05 01 FF 28 19 0A 01 00 00 (#data=14)

thermostat 17 to emsesp 0B, type AD, offset 00: 01 - heating by radiator 24- nighttemp 18°C 28-daytemp 20°C 00- is mode, 00 night , 01 day, 02 auto 4B- max flow 75°C 05- min flow 5°C 01 -? FF ? 28 -? 19-? 0A -? 01 set program auto (1-9) 00 00

Thermostat -> All, RC20StatusMessage2(0xAD), telegram: 17 00 AD 00 01 24 28 00 4B 05 01 FF 28 19 0A 01 00 00 (#data=14 Thermostat -> All, RC20StatusMessage2(0xAD), telegram: 17 00 AD 00 01 24 28 01 4B 05 01 FF 28 19 0A 01 00 00 (#data=14) Thermostat -> All, RC20StatusMessage2(0xAD), telegram: 17 00 AD 00 01 24 28 02 4B 05 01 FF 28 19 0A 01 00 00 (#data=14) Thermostat -> Me, RC20StatusMessage2(0xAD), telegram: 17 0B AD 00 01 24 28 02 4B 05 01 FF 28 19 0A 01 00 00 (#data=14) Thermostat -> Me, RC20StatusMessage2(0xAD), telegram: 17 0B AD 00 01 24 28 00 4B 05 01 FF 28 19 0A 01 00 00 (#data=14) Thermostat -> Me, RC20StatusMessage2(0xAD), telegram: 17 0B AD 00 01 24 28 02 4B 05 01 FF 28 19 0A 05 00 00 (#data=14)

thermostat does not respond to 0x91 ,0x06 , 0xa8 respnse is (21:31:29) Thermostat -> Me, telegram: 17 0B 91 00 (21:31:29) Thermostat -> Me, telegram: 17 0B A8 00 (21:31:29) Thermostat -> Me, telegram: 17 0B 06 00

thermostat is buderus rc20 , i can set there time , day number 1-7, programs 1-9, day mode , night , auto using set programs, one time hot water on /off button - that is all

i am interesting to change set temps remotly from home assistant or domoticz, but there is no A8 COMMAND :( thanks for your help

pitulek commented 4 years ago

when i change mode night /day / auto there is automatic telegram from thermostat

Thermostat -> All, RC20StatusMessage2(0xAD), telegram: 17 00 AD 03 00 (#data=1) night mode Thermostat -> All, RC20StatusMessage2(0xAD), telegram: 17 00 AD 03 01 (#data=1) day Thermostat -> All, RC20StatusMessage2(0xAD), telegram: 17 00 AD 03 02 (#data=1) auto

logng telegram is for request

Thermostat -> Me, RC20StatusMessage2(0xAD), telegram: 17 0B AD 00 01 24 28 02 4B 05 01 FF 28 19 0A 05 00 00 (#data=14)

pitulek commented 4 years ago

the short message when i change something OB 17 AD 03 --- 00 NIGHT , 01 - DAY MODE, 02 AUTO MODE 0B 17 AD 0B ---- 07 CHANGE SET PROGRAM FOR AUTO IN THIS CASE NO 7 01-09 0B 17 AD 01 25 -- CHANGE TEMP NIGHT 19,5C 0B 17 AD 02 2A -- CHANGE TEMP DAY 21C

pitulek commented 4 years ago

I think i found solution

pitulek commented 4 years ago

so if i send raw the telegrams it changes mode and set temps and program for auto mode comands

0B 17 AD 03 --- 00 NIGHT , 01 - DAY MODE, 02 AUTO MODE 0B 17 AD 0B ---- 07 CHANGE SET PROGRAM FOR AUTO IN THIS CASE NO 7 01-09 0B 17 AD 01 25 -- CHANGE TEMP NIGHT 19,5C 0B 17 AD 02 2A -- CHANGE TEMP DAY 21C

please implement it in your soft for this thermostat type

pitulek commented 4 years ago

AE telegrams

mode night, doing nothing 0000 (09:27:41) Thermostat -> All, RC20StatusMessage3(0xAE), telegram: 17 00 AE 00 00 00 28 00 CE 00 00 00 (#data=8) mode day , heating hot water 8802

(09:29:41) Thermostat -> All, RC20StatusMessage3(0xAE), telegram: 17 00 AE 00 88 02 2A 00 CE 00 00 00 (#data=8)

mode auto day, heating warm water 0c02

(09:31:42) Thermostat -> All, RC20StatusMessage3(0xAE), telegram: 17 00 AE 00 0C 02 2A 00 CE 00 00 00 (#data=8)

mode auto day , water is hot, gas off change 0c to 04 0402

Thermostat -> All, RC20StatusMessage3(0xAE), telegram: 17 00 AE 00 04 02 28 00 CF 00 00 00 (#data=8)

day mode , water is hot , gas off 8002

(09:53:47) Thermostat -> All, RC20StatusMessage3(0xAE), telegram: 17 00 AE 00 80 02 28 00 CF 00 00 00 (#data=8)

auto night mode, water is hot, gas off 04 00

Thermostat -> All, RC20StatusMessage3(0xAE), telegram: 17 00 AE 00 04 00 26 00 CF 00 00 00 (#data=8)

MichaelDvP commented 4 years ago

As far as i understand proddy, he is very busy with his 2.0 built. I have made a branch for you for testing. A bin for the bbqkees electronics is included.

pitulek commented 4 years ago

night mode , water hot there is 01 at the end of telegram (10:20:55) Thermostat -> All, RC20StatusMessage3(0xAE), telegram: 17 00 AE 00 00 00 26 00 CE 00 01 00 (#data=8)

pitulek commented 4 years ago

thank you for your help

pitulek commented 4 years ago

i do not know how to build bin file in platformio

MichaelDvP commented 4 years ago

I have compiled already and added to the main dir, you can download the EMS-ESP-1_9_5b58-d1_mini.bin and flash it via webinterface or espota.

pitulek commented 4 years ago

thank you! :)

pitulek commented 4 years ago

working fine, i can see mode and thermostat temp works i am testing. thanks!

MrWillibald commented 4 years ago

Works for my ES72 too, great job @pitulek @MichaelDvP

proddy commented 4 years ago

As far as i understand proddy, he is very busy with his 2.0 built. I have made a branch for you for testing. A bin for the bbqkees electronics is included.

Hi - yes, been busy with work and some 2.0 updates too. Shall I merge your last PR or do you have a newer build? And thanks BTW!

MichaelDvP commented 4 years ago

@proddy I've made a branch based on your dev, so it's only a small change and not so much work to review. I'll make a extra PR and you can merge this first.

proddy commented 4 years ago

ok, let me know which one to merge first. thanks for the additions!

MichaelDvP commented 4 years ago

The changes do not conflict, i have also a merged version local here, if you like onl one PR i can upload it. But i think this RC20 is important for many people, thermostats are basic functionality for ems-esp, so check this first. The other additions i made primary for myself to optimize the heatingcurve. If you want to concentrate on V2.0 you can also skip them.