"offensive" missing from British english dictionary

[kevina]

Reported by kevina on 2007-11-20 02:18 UTC Orig. from https://sourceforge.net/p/wordlist/issues/4/ Orig: [ 1114719 ] "offensive" missing from British english dictionary URL: From: Robin Green - greenrd

Please see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/aspell-en/+bug/18438

[kevina]

Commented by kevina on 2007-11-20 02:19 UTC Logged In: YES user_id=6591 Originator: YES

URL: http://sourceforge.net/support/tracker.php?aid=1114719

[kevina]

Updated by kevina on 2007-11-20 02:31 UTC

• priority: 3 --> 4
• summary: "offensive" missing from British english dictionary --> \"offensive\" missing from British english dictionary

[kevina]

Updated by kevina on 2007-11-20 02:32 UTC

• summary: \"offensive\" missing from British english dictionary --> "offensive" missing from British english dictionary

[kevina]

Commented by kevina on 2007-11-23 19:59 UTC Logged In: YES user_id=6591 Originator: YES

"offensive" is now in there. Of those I still need to add:

panellist something's shaven sweated

Others are variants according to the OED.

[kevina]

Commented by mattblissett on 2008-05-31 13:04 UTC Logged In: YES user_id=2103720 Originator: NO

14:00:39 ig:~/wordlist/scowl/final > grep ^prize$ * american-words.20:prize canadian-words.20:prize

It's a British word too! So are "prized", "prize's", "prizes". http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/prize_1?view=uk

They mean the thing you win in a competition.

To force something open is "to prise" in Britain, but (AFAIIA) "to prize" in the US.

[kevina]

Updated by kevina on 2010-03-13 22:23 UTC

• priority: 4 --> 7

[kevina]

Commented by kevina on 2010-12-21 12:32 UTC Offensive, advisor, panellist, practice, prize are now fixed in SVN, as are many other in the comments of the Ubuntu bug report. However, some of them might be won't fix.

I hope to make a release soon and will sort it out as I get closer to that date.

[kevina]

Commented by kevina on 2010-12-29 18:47 UTC Now Fixed in latest release (7.0): offensive defensive panellist practice prize peizes shaven misspelt sweated British variants (found in en_UK-variant_0) racquet advisor Not really British specific but fixed anyway: comic's something's Not very common (but might include): homophobe Uncommon (won't include): juvenility Still Need to Fix: misspelt

Lowering the priority since most of the errors are fixed, but won't close just yet.

[kevina]

Updated by kevina on 2010-12-29 18:47 UTC

• priority: 7 --> 5

[kevina]

Commented by kevina on 2010-12-29 19:04 UTC Sourceforge bug system messed up the formatting of the last comment, sorry.

Also, misspelt still needs to be fixed spelt is already fixed.

[kevina]

Commented by oldmankit on 2011-01-11 11:23 UTC From https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aspell-en/+bug/18438/comments/15

aspell -d en_GB pipe <<<feces @(#) International Ispell Version 3.1.20 (but really Aspell 0.60.6) *

Yet this is the American spelling. The British spelling (faeces) isn't in there. I wonder how many more instances there are like this.

[kevina]

Commented by oldmankit on 2011-01-11 11:56 UTC 'Instil' (British spelling) is not found, but 'instill' (US spelling) is.

'Blonde' is missing.

[kevina]

Commented by kevina on 2011-01-11 19:51 UTC oldmankit: All three of those problems are fixed in version 7.1 of the dictionary: faeces is in feces is out instil is in instill is out both blonde and blond is in Get it at, ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/aspell/dict/en, you don't even have to install it to try it out. Just use "aspell -d ./en_GB", once you compile it.

[kevina]

Commented by oldmankit on 2011-01-12 02:41 UTC Excellent! Thank you.

[kevina]

Commented by ralph on 2011-01-16 19:46 UTC unbeknownst is missing yet in /usr/share/dict/words.

$ look unbeknownst unbeknownst $ aspell pipe <<<unbeknownst @(#) International Ispell Version 3.1.20 (but really Aspell 0.60.6) & unbeknownst 9 0: unbeknown st, unbeknown-st, unbeknown, unknowns, unkindest, uncleanest, uncommonest, uncanniest, ungainliest

$

[kevina]

Commented by kevina on 2011-01-16 23:07 UTC According to oxford, unbeknownst is a variant of unbeknown. (However unbeknownst is the preferred American spelling according to several sources.)

The BNC Corpus has 11 instances of unbeknownst and 44 of unbeknown. (1:4 ratio), so, in addition, it isn't what I would call an equal variant, which is generally the current criteria I use when including both variant forms.

Nevertheless, the BNC Corpus is a bit dated and I am not British, so I am willing to let it in if enough people think it is a proper British word. Also, since unbeknownst and unbeknown are pronounced differently I might let it in as I do with some other similar variants.

With the latest version of the Aspell dictionary it is in "en_GB-variant_0". You can add this variant and many others by adding it as an extra dictionary (--extra-dicts=en_GB-variant_0 on the command line). It is also possible to include this with the normal British dictionary, please email aspell-user@gnu.org for assistance with that.

I am also considering including all common variants (ie en_GB-variant_0) by default, but I am still not sure that is the right thing, it will also likely let in "instill" which some may consider an English spelling.

[kevina]

Commented by ralph on 2011-01-18 13:02 UTC Hi Kevin, Thanks for the detail. As a bit of background, I'm a native British English speaker who hasn't lived anywhere where I'd pick up bad habits. :-) I'd use unbeknownst instead of unbeknown in the same way I use whilst instead of while in a lot of cases. I see from my #dorset (county in England) IRC logs that I'm not alone, e.g. "I'd rather make a bootable system from scratch whilst Ubuntu is still usable, than find out udevd can't run at the next boot."

IRC is a biased sample, but I've asked and others also use unbeknownst just as we use amongst. Perhaps it's the "st" sound that makes the transition into the next word smoother and less jarring sometimes. Also, it is a variant that's unlikely to disguise a real spelling error.

BTW, homophobe is common here to describe a homophobe, or suggest someone's views are homophobic. We're not sure what we'd use instead.

[kevina]

Commented by ralph on 2011-04-14 18:40 UTC aspell 0.60.6-4ubuntu1 on 10.10 doesn't have inquiry. See http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/8450893/Plans-to-phase-out-cheques-should-be-scrapped-say-MPs.html for a typical British use.

[kevina]

Commented by ralph on 2011-04-20 09:59 UTC aspell 0.60.6-4ubuntu1 on 10.10; equivalency is missing. "Interesting how the repayments currently work. I wasn't complaining about either amount, just noting the rough equivalency." http://oxforddictionaries.com/view/entry/m_en_gb0271420\#m_en_gb0271420.003 says:

equivalence Pronunciation:/ɪˈkwɪv(ə)l(ə)ns/ noun, [mass noun]: the condition of being equal or equivalent in value, worth, function, etc. Derivatives: equivalency, noun.

Is this still the right place to add words for Kevin's attention?

[kevina]

Commented by kevina on 2011-06-29 10:14 UTC Ralph: Ubuntu needs to update to the latest upstream version. Both of those are already fixed. I have updated the dictionary at http://suggest.aspell.net with the latest dictionary so you can check there if a word is upstream.

I am now closing this bug.

Anything I missed should be in a separate bug report, but check the upstream dictionary first or file a bug on Ubuntu to update their dictionary.

[kevina]

Updated by kevina on 2011-06-29 10:14 UTC

• status: open --> closed