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Data on apparent discontinuous NPs in the Cariban family
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Tiriyó: nonverbal predication? (dados-07-frog-story-marciano-p-089-007) #72

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fmatter commented 1 year ago

The translation sounds as if the kïrïpisi mëe mëe=rë mëe was [kïrïpisi mëe] [mëe=rë mëe], so two nonverbal predicates.

(dados-07-frog-story-marciano-p-089-007) Tiriyó (Meira 2022)

Nëënïïjan=ken mëepisi, kïrïpisi mëe mëe=rë mëe, menen?  
n-ëënïï-ja-n       ken  mëe-pisi  kïrï-pisi mëe   mëe   rë   mëe   m-ene-0-n      
3Sa-sleep-Pres-Dbt Cont 3AnPx-Dim man-Dim   3AnPx 3AnPx Idtf 3AnPx 2A-see-Pres-Dbt  
V                  Ptc  DPro      N         DPro  DPro  Ptc  DPro  V              
‘This little one is sleeping, this is the little man (= boy), this is him, do you see?  ’
SpikeGildea commented 1 year ago

I think the translation is a literal representation of the analysis in Tiriyó

fmatter commented 1 year ago

So, just an apparent case of morphosyntactically unmotivated prosodic integration?

SpikeGildea commented 1 year ago

Yup, that's what we have to assume in the absence of a recording to check. The problem is that a comma indicates pause, but not necessarily prosodic unity in that there could still be an intonational boundary without a pause