Draft of a Working Group charter

grorg commented 5 years ago

Initial draft of a charter for a Working Group. To be discussed at the 2019-01 meeting.

kainino0x commented 5 years ago

grorg commented 5 years ago

I believe this is ready for the 2nd round of review. I looked at the WebAssembly charter and it doesn't say anything specific about the actual work happening in the Community Group. The draft here does, so we're being more explicit than the existing group that operates this way.

Kangz commented 5 years ago

Thanks for the update, LGTM

mbergman42 commented 4 years ago

The draft charter should define the acronym "GPU" and explain the context. "GPU" is used in the draft in a way likely understandable to those in the industry. But for someone not already in the discussion like myself, it was a bit of a speedbump to confirm that this was "graphics processing unit" and not some other "graphics" acronym with which I was as yet unfamiliar. Still only "mostly sure"!

kainino0x commented 4 years ago

Good catch. We can copy it from the bottom of the cg charter, which already has a definition.

grorg commented 4 years ago

Good catch. We can copy it from the bottom of the cg charter, which already has a definition.

Agreed!

grorg commented 4 years ago

I will do one more editing pass asap.

After that, we've decided to use the reviewing approval as an indication that your company (and possibly its legal team) have reviewed the charter and consider it ok to move forward.

We'll be checking in on this every week.

travisleithead commented 4 years ago

Reviewed and left comments on behalf of Microsoft. @RafaelCintron

Kangz commented 4 years ago

Thanks for the detailed comments!

@grorg do you have some cycles to update this PR?

tidoust commented 4 years ago

@grorg, @Kangz, would you want me to do the boring work and integrate remaining comments? I'd like to start horizontal (accessibility, internationalizaton, privacy, security) reviews on the draft charter.

grorg commented 4 years ago

@tidoust appreciated! please go for it!

tidoust commented 4 years ago

OK, @grorg I did that as a pull request against your fork so that the update appears in this thread once merged there. I can also create a separate PR in this repo if that approach feels too convoluted...

A couple of questions for the group:

Now that the group seems to have converged on a solution for the Shading Language, should the draft charter be more affirmative there and make WGSL a proper deliverable (instead of a possible one)?
I put Q3 2021 as a completion date for the WebGPU API. It's always hard to evaluate how long things are going to take. You have more visibility than I have on what needs to be done, and on how long it could take, so how does that look? Q3 2021 could be a bit optimistic for instance.

wseltzer commented 4 years ago

Hi folks! I know things are busy for everyone. Is there anything more W3C team can do to help get a canonical version of this draft charter so we can circulate for wider review?

grorg commented 4 years ago

I've merged @tidoust 's PR on my PR, which addresses the comments above. Thanks @tidoust .

@wseltzer I think we have everything we need from W3C.

At this point I think the reviewers (i.e. member companies) need to do another pass to sign off.

tidoust commented 4 years ago

I prepared another pull request (see https://github.com/grorg/admin/pull/2) to address feedback received so far here and in https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/68.

Main changes:

Firm up stance on WebGPU Shading Language: move spec to list of deliverables, mention SPIR-V and key goals.
Mention mitigation strategies for fingerprinting and unauthorized use of computational resources in Scope (on top of in success criteria section). Or do you already have a clear idea of ways to address these issues?

More minor changes:

Drop mentions of Web Performance Working Group and link to Web Perf doc
Drop TAG, WICG and TC 39 groups from coordination list.
Add Immersive Web Working Group to coordination list as a likely consumer of the WebGPU API.
Update boilerplate text for Coordination section to match current template.
Postpone completion milestones to dates that seem more realistic.

Kangz commented 4 years ago

LGTM @grorg can you take a look at the PR?

tidoust commented 4 years ago

@grorg Are you still looking at the proposed update? Could it be merged?

travisleithead commented 4 years ago

@grorg any update?

tidoust commented 4 years ago

Unless I hear pushback, I note that I'm planning to move to next stage this week (internal review by W3C Management, which should lead to the draft charter being sent to the Advisory Committee for official review)

tidoust commented 4 years ago

W3C issued a call for review of the proposed charter to its Advisory Committee today. Public version at: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2020Jun/0008.html

I made a copy of the draft charter for the review, hosted on w3.org: https://www.w3.org/2020/06/gpuweb-charter.html

This copy integrates changes that the CG already reviewed and a couple of updates requested during internal review (notably to add the GPU for the Web CG appears under Coordination since it wasn't there). Updates since the version the CG reviewed:

(All the updates are in https://github.com/grorg/admin/pull/2)

Call for review lasts 6 weeks until 31 July 2020. Please work with your Advisory Committee Representative to register your comments and support for the charter.

tidoust commented 2 years ago

Closing this outdated pull request. Charter was adopted two years ago. Published version at https://www.w3.org/2020/12/gpu-wg-charter.html

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