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A Tinkers' Construct add-on for those looking to enter the world of armor
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(Suggestion) Armor Materials and modifiers (Vanilla) #112

Open Thunder-Nova opened 6 years ago

Thunder-Nova commented 6 years ago

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Since you don't like using mods as there are so many it is understandable. So I got some little ideas to make armor which can differ from materials that Tinker uses but can make sense for armor.

Plus it's not an obligation, but my 1st few ideas popped up like: OMG Why haven't though of that earlier.

Also I might repeat ideas between Material and Modifier, but I prefer one is used above the other and not both. Mainly as exemple of Tinker's Obsidian Effect and reinforcement are now seperate compared to the old mechanic. But you can add your touch.

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TheIllusiveC4 commented 6 years ago

I'll keep this open for now because there are some good ideas here, but I'll make a note that modifiers need to either be:

  1. Stackable with other armor pieces with the same modifier
  2. Effective per armor piece
  3. Limited to a single armor piece

For example, the Dragon Egg modifier would be interesting but would either need to be limited to a single armor piece or have its mechanics changed so that it has a random chance to do so, with that chance increasing with each armor piece that has the modifier.

In addition, I'd like to note that I will not be adding any new materials unless Tinker's does. The sole exception being leather if I can ever figure out that whole dyeing feature thing. Some of those traits you suggested may make for interesting modifiers though.

Thunder-Nova commented 6 years ago

Well I did say "you can add your touch"

Tinker does use leaves for fletching. But when I saw you mention about Camouflage on another post it immediately pop in mind. What I can imagine is the Effectiveness of Camouflage. Per piece will reduce the range where mobs notice the player, a full set makes them neutral. This is a reason why I placed it in both modifier and materials, that comment.

I imagine the dragon egg will most likely be on the body if it were to be specific. A dragon like design on the body would look cool.

Cool-Off is for all armor piece, idk if possible that the damage to the armor is 20 or 16 per fire/lava damage, yet divided by armor and substracted by level. 1 level = 1 modifier. Max level 3. Exemples: 1- all set have full level = ((20÷4)-3) = 2 damage to durability per armor. 2- If the helm has 2 levels, and the body has 3 = Helm ((20÷2)-2) = 8 durability and Body ((20÷2)-3) = 7 durability.

For the above can be calculated in any way, but must take note of Reinforcement. Might make Cool-Off not compatible with reinforcement and make the 4 levels modifier and 16 damage. Making the only way for a fire immunity full set armor that won't break from fire damage.

As for what I imagined for Materials, you can use the abilities I mentioned as modifiers. But if you can use them as materials, the effectiveness can be divided. A full set can get immunity (effect) or neutral (mob) level, as per piece will divide the effect or range (man, blazes do see us from way far).

If used as modifiers

Edit

Might readjust the Slippery effect, discouraging the Helm to be used in the End. Where all enderman will agro on the player. As the ice act as reflected lens.

levilips123 commented 6 years ago

the dragon egg thing wouldn't really work because only the first dragon drops the dragon egg. the respawned ones do not give an egg . but I like those ideas ! they're really cool

Thunder-Nova commented 6 years ago

@levilips123 Hmm... Unless we made something like give the dragon a drop for this (Such as dragon egg shards that can be crafted with an eye of ender for a cracked dragon egg, which must be put in a smeltery bin with 4 ingot worth of manyullyn pour on it to make a dragon egg). But I doubt its gonna be used as I recall that @TheIllusiveC4 said it has to follow tinker as a base. But getting my hopes up a bit.

The biggest reason I went for the egg and effect was based on its ability to teleport by touch. So I imagined that a anti void teleport effect based that the End has a lot of void.

Anyway.

Most modpacks does give a way for getting more dragon eggs anyway. So even so I am still thinking that it's a good thing. So either way, I am still inclined for the use of dragon egg.

Edit

The other thing I have in mind is to just add a true or (default) false config to make the revived dragon drop their egg when killed.

TheIllusiveC4 commented 6 years ago

@Thunder-Nova

But I doubt its gonna be used as I recall that @TheIllusiveC4 said it has to follow tinker as a base.

Well, the concept of adding extra drops to be used as modifier material does have precedence (i.e. Necrotic Bone from Wither Skeletons). It's not out of the question to add maybe some kind of extra drop to the dragon. Of course I'm not promising one way or the other here, but just letting you know that I haven't ruled that out.

Thunder-Nova commented 6 years ago

Ok, thought I did say: "But getting my hopes up a bit." Mostly based on that, but didn't fully know up to where you'll go.

Anyhow even if you do add the option, I would suggest it to be able to be disable in the configs. Mainly for the reason as I mentioned in my previous comment.

kurosnow commented 4 years ago

Personally, I've been kind of wondering why Leather isn't a usable material for armor parts. Make it on the part table, voila. I mean, studded leather would be like, a leather core with iron plates, give it some fur trim somehow, like, with wool. There ya go, another material suggestion. Wool. :)