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Use ioq3 player models #85

Open jdolan opened 7 years ago

jdolan commented 7 years ago

There are a hundred or so Q3 player models archived on the ioq3 site: https://ioquake3.org/extras/models/

Most of them are really bad. I spent a few hours downloading, adjusting and testing them in Quetoo. Here are the finalists:

High priority (these are drop-in ready, or are worth some minor rework ASAP)

Bunker Great model. Looks like Grunt after 10 years of drinking beer. bunker

Churchill Really cool, needs some alpha help and possibly scale. churchill

Cruentus Great creature model. cruentus

Dragoon Top-quality model, skins and animations. This one is a no-brainer and can be dropped in ASAP. dragoon

Nitro Great model, excellent skins, minor blend issues. nitro

Medium priority (decent models, and / or some work required)

Brianna Non-offensive female model, but also bland. brianna

Crak Ho Ironically, one of the less offensive female PPM's out there. crakho

Crusader Possibly out of place in Quetoo? But a high quality model with good animations. crusader

Mantis Decent model, okay skins. Medium priority. mantis

Violator Great model. Quite large, minor alpha issues. violator

Low priority - questionable art fit, buggy animations, etc.

Azrael Okay model, animations are fast / jittery. azrael

Creech Awesome model, way too large, and has some blend issues. Jump animation also questionable. creech

PMS Would want to rename this. Decent model, okay skins. Would be nice to have a female model. pms

Suwcap Decent model, decent skins, decent animations. Medium priority. suwcap

Caustic Decent model. Skin is not great and has alpha issues. Animations are good. caustic

Looking for owners to carve off each of these and

  1. Attempt to contact the original artist and ask permission.
  2. Determine licensing options if original artist is not reachable.
  3. Fix any skin and animation issues.
  4. Bake into a fully integrated, tested player-XYZ.pk3.

Any volunteers?

jdolan commented 7 years ago

CC @Paril @Panjoo @kaadmy @QuakeRanger

jdolan commented 7 years ago

Here's a link to a .pk3 with all of these models lazily bundled together, to get us started: http://jaydolan.com/tmp/player-ioq3.pk3

kaadmy commented 7 years ago

All the ones in the high priority list look really good to me, the penultimate one also looks pretty good. I can help with packing into pk3s, but I'll wait until we can confirm they can be used in Quetoo.

jdolan commented 7 years ago

@kaadmy I would say if you wanted to get started on Dragoon, just go for it. Please place the original .txt file that came with the model in target/docs/player-dragoon.txt.

kaadmy commented 7 years ago

Aren't the high priority ones basically ready to drop into pk3s?

kaadmy commented 7 years ago

And by "penultimate one", I meant the penultimate low priority one ;) Sorry about that.

jdolan commented 7 years ago

Dragoon is drop-in. Bunker's belt is white for some reason. Others have blend issues (code changes and possible skin edits required).

jdolan commented 7 years ago

I did receive consensus from Polycount folks, and from one of the skinners who worked on Dragoon (f1restarter) that we're in the clear to use these. We need to be diligent about making sure the original text files are plainly available (not packed) in the data directory.

jdolan commented 7 years ago

Dragoon and Bunker are in!

Panjoo commented 7 years ago

I've seen most of these before. I remember I was always downloading new models in the past and then got all exicted but the soon as I saw their poor (running) animations ingame they usually didn't stay very long on my hdd. Some seem excellent though (still need to really try them out):

Nitro! Bunker Dragoon Brianna Pms Crakho Mantis

A couple of these models immediately made me think of vanilla Q3 and no matter how nice they look I probably would'nt pick them for Quetoo, namely Cruentus (the walking "eyeball") and also Suwcap. But esp. the first. Azrael = just no. Violator, Creech and Churchill = nice models and good for a laugh and some variety but these will get anoying faster than you might think. Be warned:) So in the end I'm just always in favor of human/cyborg models with smooth running animations. That just feels right.

Paril commented 7 years ago

And we finally have a female with Bunker!

jdolan commented 7 years ago

So.. Bunker is a dude :P

Of the models above, after discussing with @Panjoo, the ones we still wish to adopt are:

The rest are either lacking in quality, or are frankly too offensive (PMS and Crackho) to be included in the official game.

jdolan commented 7 years ago

This issue is now somewhat related to #91 in that any models we merge in will require only a tintmap-enabled skin.

We could also use some unique sound packs for some of these models. QForcer, Gork and even Bunker are fine with the default sounds. But Dragoon, Guard and certainly Brianna will require a lighter male sound set, and a female sound set.

I actually have a friend who could voice some female sounds for us. I'll ask her if she'll do it..

kaadmy commented 7 years ago

Gork has custom sounds, they aren't used though for some reason.