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Open-ended natural selection of interacting code-data-dual algorithms as a property analogous to Turing completeness.
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Ultimate question discussion #2

Open kiwi0fruit opened 6 years ago

kiwi0fruit commented 6 years ago

The Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything

Please discuss everything related to the Ultimate Question here.

News concerning the research and discussion would appear in this GitHub discussion, subreddit r/DigitalPhilosophy and substack Digital Philosophy.

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kiwi0fruit commented 6 years ago

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kiwi0fruit commented 6 years ago

(Update 2)

7. Artificial life model as a self-justifying theory of everything
7.3 Help needed to solve the question: What is the inanimate matter? (and why these laws?)

kiwi0fruit commented 6 years ago

New speculations about "What is the inanimate matter?" in a model where life and natural selection are basic: kiwi0fruit.github.io/ultimate-question/#s7_3

kiwi0fruit commented 6 years ago

Complete rewrite of article introduction: kiwi0fruit.github.io/ultimate-question.

kiwi0fruit commented 6 years ago

Addition: Intro pt.5: Obvious problems, incl. what is inanimate matter? what about quantum computers? kiwi0fruit.github.io/ultimate-question/#i5

kiwi0fruit commented 4 years ago

Open-endedness as Turing completeness analogue for population of self organizing algorithms

kiwi0fruit commented 4 years ago

Open-ended natural selection of interacting code-data-dual algorithms as a property analogous to Turing completeness

Main reddit discussion (contain copies from other sources as well) - lots of comments:

reddit.com/r/DigitalPhilosophy, backup (2019)

kiwi0fruit commented 4 years ago

Do you see a way to use abstract rewriting system over graphs from Wolfram Physics Project to represent code-data dual algothms that modify each other and form natural selection process?

Article Some Relativistic and Gravitational Properties of the Wolfram Model (by Jonathan Gorard - 2020) has interesting definition of abstract rewriting systems that work on graphs.

Do you see a way to use them to represent code-data dual algorithms that modify each other and form natural selection process? That could be a nice base for open-ended natural selection a-life model.

More info:

Main reddit discussion (contain copies from other sources as well):

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kiwi0fruit commented 4 years ago

Where to find more on abstract rewriting systems: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22871806

kiwi0fruit commented 4 years ago

I'm interested in research direction of using code-data dual algothms that modify each other and form natural selection process to formally abstract notion of evolutional open-endedness (like Turing completeness is an abstraction of algorithms notion). More details: https://www.reddit.com/r/DigitalPhilosophy/comments/dzghec/openended_natural_selection_of_interacting/

Maybe you could advise some developed language or model for this task? The interesting part is to have code-data duality and enough rich language to kick start natural selection that would produce competing algorithms that would gradually become more and more complex (and gradually become closer to sentience).

Though the language might not even be Truring complete as it is. As natural assumption would be that the model should be finite in resources and it can get access to infinite time or memory only in time limit (assuming that the individual algorithms would survive for this to happen).

kiwi0fruit commented 3 years ago

Buddha-Darwinism on objective meaning of life separated from subjective meaning of life (Сosmogonic myth from Darwinian natural selection, Quasi-immortality, Free will, Buddhism-like illusion of Self) aka Application of Universal Darwinism to evaluation of goals and values

kiwi0fruit commented 3 years ago

Evaluating terminal values.

Discussion on this topic is aggregated in this GitHub discussion and here.

kiwi0fruit commented 3 years ago

Novelty emergence mechanics as a core idea of any viable ontology of the universe

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kiwi0fruit commented 2 years ago

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