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population moments? #190

Closed mcfrank closed 1 year ago

mcfrank commented 1 year ago

Hi @mayamathur, another one for you:

we were discussing this figure:

heterogeneity

(I've changed the X axis to be "effect size")

You wrote: "Here too, not sure if "effect" is the right term since this is just a population moment." I was seeing these pictures as distributions of effect sizes within subgroups in the population. The revised version reads:

The convenience sample doesn't cause problems if the size of your effect is homogeneous in the population -- as with the case of smoodling or Stroop. The trouble comes when you have an effect that is heterogeneous. Because one group is over-represented, you get systematic bias in the sample mean relative to the population mean.

Does this seem OK with you?

mayamathur commented 1 year ago

Yes, I think that makes sense! I guess it's a little complicated that there is still residual effect heterogeneity even conditional on subgroup, but I don't feel strongly about changing it further.

On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 7:28 PM Michael Frank @.***> wrote:

Hi @mayamathur https://github.com/mayamathur, another one for you:

we were discussing this figure: [image: heterogeneity] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1158807/268132420-2cb80a4a-e092-4180-9d10-4fa4b6297184.png

(I've changed the X axis to be "effect size")

You wrote: "Here too, not sure if "effect" is the right term since this is just a population moment." I was seeing these pictures as distributions of effect sizes within subgroups in the population. The revised version reads:

The convenience sample doesn't cause problems if the size of your effect is homogeneous in the population -- as with the case of smoodling or Stroop. The trouble comes when you have an effect that is heterogeneous. Because one group is over-represented, you get systematic bias in the sample mean relative to the population mean.

Does this seem OK with you?

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mcfrank commented 1 year ago

great, thanks!