Metric dovetails

[staylr]

Hi,

The Incra metric dovetail templates use imperial dovetail bits. It doesn't look like pyRouterJig allows entering a 12.7mm bit width. Is there any way around this?

Cheers, Simon.

[lowrie]

Hi Simon,

I'm trying to think of a way around this, but still have good-fitting joints.

There's 2 issues. By default, pyRouterJig will round to the nearest 1mm. That's one issue. For 12.7, that's 13 mm. Right now, it also doesn't allow for an odd-numbered width, which is the second issue. These constraints made it easy to get perfect-fitting joints (zero gap or overlap), but are probably too restrictive. I need to think about this some more.

I don't understand your statement that "Incra metric dovetail templates use imperial dovetail bits". Which templates are these? I don't know of any metric versions, except that pyRouterJig generates.

Thanks, -Rob

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Hi,

The Incra metric dovetail templates use imperial dovetail bits. It doesn't look like pyRouterJig allows entering a 12.7mm bit width. Is there any way around this?

Cheers, Simon.

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[staylr]

Thanks for that. I meant the templates in the Incra Master Reference Guide Metric Addendum.

[lowrie]

Ahh, I didn't know about the Addendum. In my Imperial book, there is a "Depth of Cut Chart - Metric" table on page 3. See the attached image, which I found online (for a German manual). It refers to MDOVA, MODVB, etc., which I assume are the metric templates, which I don't have. It would help me if I knew the "approximate depth of cut" for each entry in the template. This value should be printed on the template. If you could supply these values, I would really appreciate it!

Thanks, -Rob

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Thanks for that. I meant the templates in the Incra Master Reference Guide Metric Addendum.

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[staylr]

Template	Bit	Approx Depth of Cut	Spacing to Set Depth
MDOVA	5/16" 10°	6mm	14mm
MDOVB	5/16" 10°	6mm	14mm
MDOVC	1/2" 14°	7mm	22mm
MDOVD	1/2" 14°	7mm	22mm
MDOVE	1/2" 14°	7mm	22mm
MDOVF	1/2" 14°	11mm	20mm
MDOVG	1/2" 14°	11mm	20mm
MDOVH	1/2" 14°	11mm	20mm
MDOVI	5/8" 7°	15mm	28mm
MDOVJ	5/8" 7°	15mm	28mm
MDOVK	3/4" 7°	18mm	34mm

[lowrie]

Thanks Simon.

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Template Bit Approx Depth of Cut Spacing to Set Depth MDOVA 5/16" 10° 6mm 14mm MDOVB 5/16" 10° 6mm 14mm MDOVC 1/2" 14° 7mm 22mm MDOVD 1/2" 14° 7mm 22mm MDOVE 1/2" 14° 7mm 22mm MDOVF 1/2" 14° 11mm 20mm MDOVG 1/2" 14° 11mm 20mm MDOVH 1/2" 14° 11mm 20mm MDOVI 5/8" 7° 15mm 28mm MDOVJ 5/8" 7° 15mm 28mm MDOVK 3/4" 7° 18mm 34mm

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[lowrie]

Simon, this is going to take me longer to implement than I thought. I'll let you know when I have something to try, but it might be a while.

Thanks, -Rob

On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 8:31 AM, Rob Lowrie rob@lowrielodge.org wrote:

Thanks Simon.

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Template Bit Approx Depth of Cut Spacing to Set Depth MDOVA 5/16" 10° 6mm 14mm MDOVB 5/16" 10° 6mm 14mm MDOVC 1/2" 14° 7mm 22mm MDOVD 1/2" 14° 7mm 22mm MDOVE 1/2" 14° 7mm 22mm MDOVF 1/2" 14° 11mm 20mm MDOVG 1/2" 14° 11mm 20mm MDOVH 1/2" 14° 11mm 20mm MDOVI 5/8" 7° 15mm 28mm MDOVJ 5/8" 7° 15mm 28mm MDOVK 3/4" 7° 18mm 34mm

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[staylr]

No problem. I had a look at the code myself, looks like this breaks some fairly basic assumptions.

[lowrie]

Hi Simon, I know it's been a while, and you've probably moved on. But I think I may have figured out a way around this, even with the current version.

Under the units preference, set "Increments per mm" to 100. The last digit of the bit width needs to be an even number (too complex to explain), so approximate your bit widths as follows:

5/16" -> 7.92 mm 1/2" -> 12.70 mm 5/8" -> 15.88 mm 3/4" -> 19.04 mm

With the depth of cut set as in your table, you'll see the program gives the corresponding "Spacing to set depth" numbers, to the nearest mm.

EDIT: But then the router passes are obviously placed to within 0.01 mm, which is not attainable with the INCRA. Rounding to the nearest 1 mm might be accurate enough, but this needs to be tested, and I have no way to test it.

[vladsan]

When I'll get my Incra LS metric I'll test it. So I am sure that everyone who use metric positioner eagerly willing to have full access to it's capabilities. Waiting for metric

[lowrie]

OK vladsan. I haven't looked at this code in quite a while.

[Matthew670]

Just stumbled onto this...using the original Incra jig...so looking forward to the metric work along Cheers for all your work.

[Valdas2000]

Hello. I walked thru the code. There are some improvements I can contribute. 1 - QT5 support 2 - Template labels extension (bit diameter and angle, board width, bit depth) 3 - Support imperial dovetails bits in metric 4 - Make Align line always visible on gray-scale prints 5 - Russian language support

Are you ok if I submit such changes into your stream ? Imperial features got now calculation changes.

Regards.

PS. There are some tricks allows half mm positioning on Incra. So in theory it is possible to have odd cut spacing (I try such tricks but not sure if it make sense to put such feature into the application code)

[lowrie]

@Valdas2000 Sounds great! If it all possible, can you break the pull requests (changes) into 5 separate pull requests, each corresponding to your list? That It will make it easier for me to review and merge. I can understand that this request might be difficult, but I also fear that all of your changes may reflect a lot of code changes.

Also, could you explain more on the 0.5 mm spacing trick? Do you believe this same trick would allow 1/64" spacing for imperial systems?

Finally, your message implies that either you've fixed metric for dovetails, at least for imperial bits. Is that true? Do your fixes work for metric bits?

Thanks for your interest and work!

[Valdas2000]

Hello.

I will brake the pull requests. no problem.

0.5mm trick is easy and will work on 1/64 as well. Let's we need to make join with 13mm period. So space between A cuts is 13 mm.
The point is we need to get 6.5 mm offset to get from A to B cuts. However space in B line still 13mm.

Normally I do the following. 1 - Put a 0.5 mm shim between Fence and sub Fence. (I uses stainless steal shim same size to sub-fence) 2 - Center my fence system as usual (actually we got 0.5 mm extra) 3 - pass A cuts as usual 4 - Step to B cuts (6 mm) 5 - Move the shims out (got 6.5mm offset) 6 - make B cuts

Shims works better than micro-adjust.

I updated calculation for metric part to get imperial dovetail bits working. For now I test the templates on my Incra.

[lowrie]

@Valdas2000 Ahh, great idea on using the shim. At a minimum, I will put that idea into the documentation.

[Valdas2000]

Seems I got Metric working well. Also QT5 migration fixes: 1 -Fix mouse events (was not covered by previous pull request) 2 - Fix screenshot issue

[lowrie]

That's great, Valdas...feel free to do a pull request whenever you are ready. Looking at your branch, it looks like all the changes are in router.py. Your file formatting may be messed up (I'm not sure), but I can fix that later. Or run pylint.

[Valdas2000]

Hello. As about localization. I've got the following issue: The local language file (ts). Have to be compiled via lrelease. It is a special QT tool shoped with development package. I am not sure if it is available on MAC. I spend lot of time to get it because of huge size of dev package for Microsoft.

Does it make sense to commit a binary translation file (qm) as well as ts source ?

[lowrie]

Can you supply a simple python script/code that uses the ts file? I can see if it works on the Mac.

I do not like the idea of binary files in the repo. I'd rather they be downloaded, from a reputable site, but the code user.

[lowrie]

Have you considered gettext?

https://docs.python.org/3/library/gettext.html

[Valdas2000]

Hello. I don't like idea to keep binaries as well. May be it's make scene to distribute localization as a separate set (like you have for wood patterns). Application works fine even if no localization files presents.

The issue with gettext is that it's tricky to use it because python3 recommend to avoid some functionality. Also it's not that good for QT because developer have to carry about interface translation too much.

That is the reason I bring up QT5 translation way. It offers ability to avoid restart on translation switch. http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/internationalization.html

Some more about translation flow for developer (done).

1 - create a QTranslation object 2 - load translation file 3 - register translation in the application (the benefit is that app send signal to all Windows to rebuild them, so translation can be changed on fly) 4 - wrap texts into tr() call (seems we have no worry about encoding)

Localization flow (done 95%):

1 - run pylupdate5 (it shipped with pyQT5) over the source file to get ts file created 2 - edit ts file to paste translation for strings (the file must be UTF-8 encoded).

Compile (done on Windows)

1 - Compile ts file into qm via lrelease tool. The tool shiped with qttools5-dev-tools. Can you please verify in you able to compile the ts file https://github.com/Valdas2000/pyRouterJig/tree/py3_qt5/ts

Regards Valentin

[lowrie]

@Valdas2000 I used pylint to clean up a lot of the code. I hope that doesn't ruin anything that you're currently working on.

[Valdas2000]

I merged the changes into my code. Sorry it took a little bit while. Pulled-up changes to you.

[Valdas2000]

More issues. Scale is not correct on print. I try to print on high-res 738dpi and 1400dpi printer and got wrong size. BTW on 600dpi there is 1 mm (~0.039") scale error for 200mm (4") boards.

[lowrie]

If the scale on print is off, try print_scale_factor in the .pyrouterjig config file. In your case, if the printed size was too small, do

print_scale_factor = 200.0 / (200 - 1)

or if too big,

print_scale_factor = 200.0 / (200 + 1)

[Valdas2000]

Thank you. I just try to figure out the cause. Normally it's should be the case. Probably it is somewhere in the printer driver options.

[Valdas2000]

Well. At least one case. The mouse zoom also impacts prints. Not sure if that should work in the such way. Steps to reproduce 1 - Check Menu->View->Zoom Mode 2 - Use mouse to zoom in or zoom-out 3 - Print.

[davidwilyman]

Hi Rob and Simon. Great that you are trying to find a solution for the Metric LS Positioner which uses Imperial Dovetails and I can only add my encouragement. Trying to get good quality Metric Dovetail bits in the UK is difficult so can’t use the pyrouterjig to create new templates and use Incra's standard templates. Incra provide 51 templates for the Imperial version and only 26 for the Metric so without pyrouterjig we Metric users are missing out big time. Hopefully you will be able to find the time to continue improving this great program. Best wishes, David

[Valdas2000]

Hello David

Some years ago I made changes in the project and now it is able to create metric and imperial patterns for metric and Imperial bits. However you can combine metric bits and imperial pattern and reverse. I also add gentle cut feature that generate pattern for multi-pass cut to use narrow bit for wide cuts.

It works well for me. You can try out my fork.

Regards Valentin

[davidwilyman]

Hello Valentin,

Many thanks for all your hard work on this great program which has improved the functionality for us Metric users.

I downloaded the software from http://lowrie.github.io/pyRouterJig/ version 0.9.3.

Is this the correct version. I am not sure what you mean by “You can try out my fork.” Is this a different source with your updates.

Many thanks and best wishes,

David

[Valdas2000]

Hello. The metric sources are under Valdas2000/pyRouterJig fork.

I can upload a compiled binary (executable file for windows if you need)/ The fork uses modern QT5

Regards Valentin

[lowrie]

Thanks, Valentin. Someday I'll work on merging your stuff in, once I retire from my current job...

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Hello. The metric sources are under Valdas2000/pyRouterJig fork.

I can upload a compiled binary (executable file for windows if you need)/ The fork uses modern QT5

Regards Valentin

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[davidwilyman]

Dear Robert and Valentin,

Many thanks for your efforts here. Work does get in the way and I’m glad that I have a retired now.

I have a good friend who is a techie guru and I will ask him to help me download and compile Valentin's updates onto the Windows platform. I will obviously give any feedback to help out.

I’ve used pyrouterjig on both the Windows PC and the Mac with good success.

Best wishes,

David Wilyman

[lowrie]

Thanks, good luck, David!

-Rob

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Dear Robert and Valentin,

Many thanks for your efforts here. Work does get in the way and I’m glad that I have a retired now.

I have a good friend who is a techie guru and I will ask him to help me download and compile Valentin's updates onto the Windows platform. I will obviously give any feedback to help out.

I’ve used pyrouterjig on both the Windows PC and the Mac with good success.

Best wishes,

David Wilyman

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[Valdas2000]

Dear David.

It will be nice if you drop a line if it works good for your projects and if any changes need. I will be glad to help if any issues.

Regards Valentin.

[davidwilyman]

Dear Valentin,

I have asked a good friend to help compile the source code but he is currently on holiday. I could probably do it myself but he would have no problem at all, so I will wait for his return.

Many thanks. I am very much looking forward to using it and will of course keep you updated with how I am getting on.

Best wishes,

David

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 Dear David.

It will be nice if you drop a line if it works good for your projects and if any changes need. I will be glad to help if any issues.

Regards Valentin.

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[RaBuAc]

Dear David, Valentin, I will receive my Incra in some days and I am very interested in the updated (metric, imperial bits) Version for Windows from created by Valentin. Your work is really great and I really appreaciate your effort it overcome the limitations I see with the patterns supplied by INCRA natively.

If I read the discussion correctly you, David, might have an exe for Windows till now? Can you give feedback how it works and upload that one (or send it to me?)

If not, Valentin, you have offered to create a Windows exe version - would you mind to create and upload the version for me?

@ lowrie, many thanks to your initial work too.

Many thanks to all of you.

Regards, Rainer

[Valdas2000]

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Regards. Valentin

[RaBuAc]

Valentin,

many, many, thanks for that great help. I started the windows executable and it worked so far I tested it.

Once I have my INCRA and have done some tests I will let you know if all works out.

Really, again, many thanks and all the best to you and your family in these times!

Best regards,

Rainer

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[RaBuAc]

Valentin,

can there be an issue with the calculation?

I’ve tried one setup (see at the end) and it didn’t work.

Then I tried to reproduce a template out of the INCRA template (MDOVF) and see what I got – it somehow does not align with the INCAR templates, also it looks odd having a 1B and 2B marker near to each other.

Now compare this to Robert Lowrie http://github.com/lowrie/ s version 0.9.3 (nearest numbers I could enter)

What I’ve tried:

And this is the result – it appears that the center lines are too far apart (I measured the overall length of the template print out and it didn’t show a scaling issue)

Your help is highly appreciated.

Best regards,

Rainer

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[Valdas2000]

Hello Can you send me the generated template. Save it as png and send it to me.

Thank you.

ср, 25 нояб. 2020 г., 18:15 RaBuAc notifications@github.com:

Valentin,

can there be an issue with the calculation?

I’ve tried one setup (see at the end) and it didn’t work.

Then I tried to reproduce a template out of the INCRA template (MDOVF) and see what I got – it somehow does not align with the INCAR templates, also it looks odd having a 1B and 2B marker near to each other.

Now compare this to Robert Lowrie http://github.com/lowrie/ s version 0.9.3 (nearest numbers I could enter)

What I’ve tried:

And this is the result – it appears that the center lines are too far apart (I measured the overall length of the template print out and it didn’t show a scaling issue)

Your help is highly appreciated.

Best regards,

Rainer

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[RaBuAc]

Valentin,

here are the generated t3mplates as png.

Pyrouterjig0.png shows the 1B, 2B effect.

pyrouterjig1.png was used for setting up the depth of the router bit and I failed miserably (maybe I do something wrong – not yet sure though).

Many thanks for your help.

Best regards,

Rainer

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Hello Can you send me the generated template. Save it as png and send it to me.

Thank you.

ср, 25 нояб. 2020 г., 18:15 RaBuAc <notifications@github.com mailto:notifications@github.com >:

Valentin,

can there be an issue with the calculation?

I’ve tried one setup (see at the end) and it didn’t work.

Then I tried to reproduce a template out of the INCRA template (MDOVF) and see what I got – it somehow does not align with the INCAR templates, also it looks odd having a 1B and 2B marker near to each other.

Now compare this to Robert Lowrie http://github.com/lowrie/ s version 0.9.3 (nearest numbers I could enter)

What I’ve tried:

And this is the result – it appears that the center lines are too far apart (I measured the overall length of the template print out and it didn’t show a scaling issue)

Your help is highly appreciated.

Best regards,

Rainer

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[Valdas2000]

Hello. Seems the attachment lost :(

[RaBuAc]

I have now attached two files again – hope that github does not filter it out…

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[Valdas2000]

Hello. Seems GitHub filter them out :( Can you please share files somewhere on GDrive.

Thank you.

[RaBuAc]

Valentin,

please find the files here:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-BhkRMPNqYn78Wc-8n8JxtNXesxVpFQJ?usp=sharing

Many thanks for your help.

Best regards,

Rainer

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Thank you.

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[Valdas2000]

Hell. Thank you for shared images. 1 I found an issue and fix the program. The binary shared in the regular place. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1XwabCNwxYGuTPLEMb8dXbGFeKLGF6ZVG?usp=sharing The issue was not in calculation but in a place of template aliment mark.

2. I put some notes about "close cuts" on a wiki page here https://github.com/Valdas2000/pyRouterJig/wiki/Cuts-too-close-on-the-templete

Also I put some instructions about fence setup https://github.com/Valdas2000/pyRouterJig/wiki/PyRouterJig-Metric.-Fense-setup-instructions

Hope ho hear from you soon Regards.

[RaBuAc]

Valentin,

many thanks.

I’ll try the same setup the next days and let you know if it works.

Many thanks again for your prompt help and all your effort. Also for the additions in the Wiki.

Have a nice day.

Best regards,

Rainer

Von: Valdas notifications@github.com Gesendet: Samstag, 28. November 2020 15:30 An: lowrie/pyRouterJig pyRouterJig@noreply.github.com Cc: RaBuAc office@buschac.de; Comment comment@noreply.github.com Betreff: Re: [lowrie/pyRouterJig] Metric dovetails (#2)

Hell. Thank you for shared images. 1 I found an issue and fix the program. The binary shared in the regular place. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1XwabCNwxYGuTPLEMb8dXbGFeKLGF6ZVG?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1XwabCNwxYGuTPLEMb8dXbGFeKLGF6ZVG?usp=sharing The issue was not in calculation but in a place of template aliment mark.

2. I put some notes about "close cuts" on a wiki page here https://github.com/Valdas2000/pyRouterJig/wiki/Cuts-too-close-on-the-templete https://github.com/Valdas2000/pyRouterJig/wiki/Cuts-too-close-on-the-templete

Also I put some instructions about fence setup https://github.com/Valdas2000/pyRouterJig/wiki/PyRouterJig-Metric.-Fense-setup-instructions https://github.com/Valdas2000/pyRouterJig/wiki/PyRouterJig-Metric.-Fense-setup-instructions

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[RaBuAc]

Valentin,

please see this comparision between the older version and the latest version from you, which I did on paper:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pbLnz6w-d5vnYhZg1JW_JpRW_doFEnTu/view?usp=sharing

My major question is, why are the cuts left and right not symmetrical, can’t they be symmetrical?

Best regards,

Rainer

Von: Valdas notifications@github.com Gesendet: Samstag, 28. November 2020 15:30 An: lowrie/pyRouterJig pyRouterJig@noreply.github.com Cc: RaBuAc office@buschac.de; Comment comment@noreply.github.com Betreff: Re: [lowrie/pyRouterJig] Metric dovetails (#2)

Hell. Thank you for shared images. 1 I found an issue and fix the program. The binary shared in the regular place. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1XwabCNwxYGuTPLEMb8dXbGFeKLGF6ZVG?usp=sharing The issue was not in calculation but in a place of template aliment mark.

2. I put some notes about "close cuts" on a wiki page here https://github.com/Valdas2000/pyRouterJig/wiki/Cuts-too-close-on-the-templete

Also I put some instructions about fence setup https://github.com/Valdas2000/pyRouterJig/wiki/PyRouterJig-Metric.-Fense-setup-instructions

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[Valdas2000]

Hello. Q: Line is not really vertical? A: Yes. It is a bug. The cause is that the Bit Depth is not exact. It is math error in board driving (will be fixed soon). Issue happen when the value is not that recommended 16.29mm. (Bit depth for perfect fits are: 8.14, 16.29, 24.43)

Q: Align to the black or white line ? A: The black one. (Will remove white lines soon)

Q: Why not symmetrical? A: Board with in your set is 93mm. The Incra fence have a 1mm positioning step. The board center 46.5mm which is not possible to reach by 1mm steps, you can reach 46 or 45 but not in between. So the program shows you different shoulder sizes in case of no micro adjust.

Q: Old and new version shows the same cut spacing (17mm). A: Right. Cut spaces are the same. For bit depth around 16.24 it is 17mm for depth 8.14 it is 18mm. There are no big variations because of 1mm step of the fence. By the way. Bit depth 19mm on your picture make you join too tied it got 0.33mm overlap. So tenons does not fits into the grooves. It is better to chose bit depth around 14.5mm you will get good fit. The gap is about 0.2mm which is quite fine for a good join.