Public API verry soon available

[pergolafabio]

good news guys, just got information that risco wil launch soon a public API for developers, they will inform me next week about ETA seems they also finished integration with amazon alexa already, probably launching verry soon

[rob1981forest]

That's great news !

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good news guys, just got information that risco wil launch soon a public API for developers, they will inform me next week about ETA seems they also finished integration with amazon alexa already, probably launching verry soon

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[rob1981forest]

Do we think then we can just access it locally instead of via the cloud......?

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found something already on their site now :

https://www.riscogroup.com/products/solution/7815

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The platform includes a comprehensive and flexible integrator toolbox for building professional synoptic maps and interactive buttons and allows full and immediate reaction to events. Device state logic and behavior (icon color, size, button appearance etc) can be easily customized. SynopSYS Integrated Security & Building Management™ allows full flexibility, tailoring a solution to requirements that may arise from specific project needs without the need to approach the vendor for special software development and adaptation. If needed, the System Integrator can even define onsite a unique behavior and scenario for specific devices according to Security Directors’ requests. This cost-effective solution shortens the implementation cycle of the project.

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[pergolafabio]

think it will be still a cloud api, but programming/devloping/intergrating will be much easier then also , now, if risco decides to change something on their website now, the tool that we are using now, will stop working too

also , now we are using poll method, then it will be probaly push method

[pergolafabio]

btw, i am now using (as test) the Home Assiant addon - Risco, working also verry well much easier for us to integrate in Home Assistant :)

[pergolafabio]

new email from risco :

I’m was talking about a cloud public API for integration with other products. This will give you basically the options that you have in the mobile application through an API.

[lucacalcaterra]

Good news.. I've already developed one Alexa skill and Google home action, would be useful if Risco implement them on their system.

Thanks for the news

[lucacalcaterra]

Any news about this ?

[pergolafabio]

normally by end of year at this moment they are validating my request for internal API access, if it gets approved, normally this month , i let you know

[drash1]

Hello, @pergolafabio did you get news about your internal API access request?

[pergolafabio]

Last feedback 2 weeks ago, should be released by end of the year

[mancioshell]

Hi, i have just released a node-risco-client in Node.js I have sniffed traffic from a mobile app, and i have replicated api call to backend in my client.

This may be useful if anyone would implement something until the Public API will be available.

[pergolafabio]

cool, is this based on push or pull ?

[lucacalcaterra]

Hi, i have just released a node-risco-client in Node.js I have sniffed traffic from a mobile app, and i have replicated api call to backend in my client.

This may be useful if anyone would implement something until the Public API will be available.

There are more useful function in addiction to my project ?

[mancioshell]

I have used your project, and i have found that sometimes alarm motion sensor doesn't trigger a real movement. In the Android app instead it works really well. I have though this behaviour is caused by Web Risco Cloud API used by risco-mqtt-bridge.

[lucacalcaterra]

@mancioshell Thanks ! Very useful... so i can integrate your calls in nodejs with my project ? I'll study it

[pergolafabio]

What about the state, so if armed from a hardware panel, can you see the state instant changing ? That's my only issue now, the state delay for like 3 minutes...

[mancioshell]

What about the state, so if armed from a hardware panel, can you see the state instant changing ? That's my only issue now, the state delay for like 3 minutes...

node-risco-client is only a client in which you can get the alarm state and the sensors states in a particular moment. You can use node-risco-client to develop an application, or anything you want, that poll the alarm state every prefix time to get the actual value.

I have tested with my mobile app, and if you arm from a hardware panel, you can see the state changing in a few seconds (it depends on poll frequency from the app). node-risco-client is based on app rest call, so i think there will be no problem.

[mancioshell]

@mancioshell Thanks ! Very useful... so i can integrate your calls in nodejs with my project ? I'll study it

Sure. If you want to integrate my client it would be awesome :)

[lucacalcaterra]

when I will have time... :-(

[lucacalcaterra]

@mancioshell I took a look. Probably i can adapt my api urls with yours without change too much code using axios as before

[lucacalcaterra]

@mancioshell we must offer you a beer :-) I tested it and ...@pergolafabio with these integrations you'll have status change of alarm panel in realtime ( or near...) .. :-) I must find time to use the API calls used by mancioshell... ( not so quick work)

[pergolafabio]

Aha, that's verry good news!!!!!!

[rob1981forest]

I wish I knew what to do here but I don't !!!!

So given what has been said if @lucacalcaterra/risco-mqtt-bridgemailto:risco-mqtt-bridge@noreply.github.com updates things a little we may be able to use risco PIR sensor to trigger lights in Home Assistant ?

Keep up the good work guys !!

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Aha, that's verry good news!!!!!!

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[pergolafabio]

i think its still based on poll interval , not sure though polling every second is not a good idea anyway

anyway, by end october i know normally an estimated time for launch of public api fingers crossed

[pergolafabio]

@mancioshell do you also work with Home Assistant? or is it maybe possible to convert your code to python? so we can use it directly in home assistant?, no need then for a docker/mqtt @rob1981forest how do you make the sensors visible in home assistant? do you make seperate mqtt sensors for that manually?

[rob1981forest]

Hi,

I don't actually expose the sensors in home assistant but would love to !

I'm no mqtt expert but starting to learn more about it so yes that would seem the obvious way to do it

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@mancioshellhttps://github.com/mancioshell do you also work with Home Assistant? or is it maybe possible to convert your code to python? so we can use it directly in home assistant?, no need then for a docker/mqtt @rob1981foresthttps://github.com/rob1981forest how do you make the sensors visible in home assistant? do you make seperate mqtt sensors for that manually?

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[lucacalcaterra]

@mancioshell didn't manage multiple partitions ?

[rob1981forest]

@pergolafabio - i got my sensors into home assistant tonight so i could trigger a light to turn on by them.......however as the code is not polling frequently enough you do miss events so it could take the sensor a few times of registering movement before triggering the action

just add this to your config.yaml and change the risco detector number (mine is 13). you can then make automations of the sensor state being 'triggered' or 'idle'

Sensor

• platform: mqtt name: landing_pir_triggered state_topic: "riscopanel/dects/13" value_template: > {% if value_json is defined and value_json.filter == 'triggered' %} triggered {% else %} idle {% endif %}

[pergolafabio]

Cool , thnx for sharing, let's hope code will be better, and let's hope that the API will be push method, then we can actually use it as a sensor

[pergolafabio]

btw, are these events in the polling interval ? so for example every 10 sec , it will refresh : riscopanel/dects/ ?

@lucacalcaterra can you also add : riscopanel/eventhistory/lastevent in the polling interval? i dont it is at the moment....? seems that event is always reliable and also changed, so that gives a better state of the panel itself, then there is also no delay in my further automations

[rob1981forest]

I'd say 10 seconds does seem about right but as I say if your detection event doesn't happen on one of the polling intervals the mqtt topic won't publish.......so it's not really usable but as you say if it goes to a push method then would be good

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btw, are these events in the polling interval ? so for example every 10 sec , it will refresh : riscopanel/dects/ ?

@lucacalcaterrahttps://github.com/lucacalcaterra can you also add : riscopanel/eventhistory/lastevent in the polling interval? i dont it is at the moment....? seems that event is always reliable and also changed, so that gives a better state of the panel itself, then there is also no delay in my further automations

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[pergolafabio]

i was just testing the detectors, logged in on riscocloud.com and also my irisco app was open, when i walk before a detector, i dont see the state changing immediately, only after like 30 seconds or something, or not at all sometimes... when you walk before it, do you see those changing immediately ?

[rob1981forest]

Yeah just tested that and same as you......I didn't actually check this out before.....

Maybe I'm wrong then and it's the cloud thing.

I know locally when I use the CS software you see the icon of the detector change straight away but we are never going to get local access !

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i was just testing the detectors, logged in on riscocloud.com and also my irisco app was open, when i walk before a detector, i dont see the state changing immediately, only after like 30 seconds or something, or not at all sometimes... when you walk before it, do you see those changing immediately ?

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[pergolafabio]

Yeah, it's useless then... Local access, should be possible though, Wireshark should help, but I never checked it

[pergolafabio]

Btw, you also have an installer account then, you manage your own panel since you can use the CS software?

[pergolafabio]

indeed, checked CS software, and those detectors are changing immedialety... strange that you can see it there, since CS software also uses cloud connection when i connect to panel

[rob1981forest]

No my panel is still with my alarm company account but we fell out and I no longer use them but think if I move it to my own installer account id have to pay somehow. Other risco companies charge £10 a month for cloud services around here so I'm getting lucky I think.

As risco don't deal with the public I don't want to change things too much in case I have to find a new alarm company to connect me into the cloud.

One day I decided to fill out an installer account request and it got granted ! No idea how and I do nothing with it but was good to have a look around.

I have the engineers code so I just swap battieres and maintain it myself.

It's old firmware and I'd love to update it but you need a code from risco to do it so I'm stuck really.

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indeed, checked CS software, and those detectors are changing immedialety... strange that you can see it there, since CS software also uses cloud connection when i connect to panel

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[pergolafabio]

no no! you dont have to pay for a local admin account my panel was also linked before with a alarm company, a few months later i decided to also connect cameras to my alarm panel.... but to configure cameras, you NEED an installer account, this is not possible with a code, this needs to be done on the installer portal so only alarm compnanys can configure the cameras, but then they can also watch in your house, thats was one of the reasons i wanted my onw installer account... second reason, i dont have the original risco cameras, they suck :) , i have my onw onvif cameras, also attached to my synology... i change a lot in my house , so if an IP was changed ot whatever password on my camera, then i need to call the alarm company, offcourse they are gonna charge you for the services

so i called risco, just asked gently to remove my panel ID from the alarm company, no problem, they do it without asking why... i just explained the reasons and it was done in 1 hour panen removed, just created an installer account, added the ID back , done!! verry easy process.

but still, how do you connect with CS to your panel? do you use a serial cable? because if you use cloud to connect to CS, then you need to have a installer account

[rob1981forest]

Thanks, interesting to know......I tried to add my panel to my installer account and it did say it was already registered to another installer.

My CS software has stopped connecting for about 6 months or so via cloud and also when I configure it to connect via local IP......not sure why but I don't really have a need to get in so not really looked too much into it.

Maybe I should get my panel into my own installer account......I did think one day they may take my installer account off me as I'm not actually an installer. !!

So can you connect any onvif camera to the risco cloud ?

I have a history of messing with things to try and make them better and then making them worse !!

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no no! you dont have to pay for a local admin account my panel was also linked before with a alarm company, a few months later i decided to also connect cameras to my alarm panel.... but to configure cameras, you NEED an installer account, this is not possible with a code, this needs to be done on the installer portal so only alarm compnanys can configure the cameras, but then they can also watch in your house, thats was one of the reasons i wanted my onw installer account... second reason, i dont have the original risco cameras, they suck :) , i have my onw onvif cameras, also attached to my synology... i change a lot in my house , so if an IP was changed ot whatever password on my camera, then i need to call the alarm company, offcourse they are gonna charge you for the services

so i called risco, just asked gently to remove my panel ID from the alarm company, no problem, they do it without asking why... i just explained the reasons and it was done in 1 hour panen removed, just created an installer account, added the ID back , done!! verry easy process.

but still, how do you connect with CS to your panel? do you use a serial cable? because if you use cloud to connect to CS, then you need to have a installer account

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[pergolafabio]

yes, when you create an installer account on your own, then its not possible to register your panel you first need to call Risco, ask to remove the ID from the alarm company, they need todo it, its your system you can also say , thay you are not happy with your company, and you want to manage it by yourself...

indeed, risco changed the system to use CS software, now in the CS software you need to also input the installer account, thats why you cant use it anymore, only installers can use it now

and yes, you can add any camera to your system , onvif/rtsp is supported, i have those cheap foscam cameras in my house, the C1 Models, verry cheap and working quite good for the price

but, to activate it in risco, you need to buy a one time license , its a one time cost to add an onvif camera to risco cloud, its like 55€

difference between a risco camera, is they you dont need the extra cost, but the risco cameras are much more expensive, more then 55€ :-) second difference, with onvif cameras, you cant capture video when alarm goes of, you can only take snapshots... but i dont care anyway, i use my synology surveillance system for that

you can but those licenses online in some webshops:

https://www.pahedomotica.nl/product/non-risco-myelas-camera-licentie-onvif/

[rob1981forest]

Thanks a lot for the Info.......do you update the panel firmware then also ?

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yes, when you create an installer account on your onw, then its not possible to register your panel you first need to call Risco, ask to remove the ID from your panel, they need todo it, its your system you can also say , thay you are not happy with your company, and you want to manage it by yourself...

indeed, risco changed the system to use CS software, now in the CS software you need to also input the installer account, thats why you cant use it anymore, only installers can use it now

and yes, you can add any camera to your system , onvif/rtsp is supported, i have those cheap foscam cameras in my house, the C1 Models, verry cheap and working quite good for the price

but, to activate it in risco, you need to buy a one time license , its a one time cost to add an onvif camera to risco cloud, its like 55€

difference between a risco camera, is they you dont need the extra cost, but the risco cameras are much more expensive, more then 55€ :-) second difference, with onvif cameras, you cant capture video when alarm goes of, you can only take snapshots... but i dont care anyway, i use my synology surveillance system for that

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[pergolafabio]

No, I have an verry old firmware... It works... I don't have access to Risco to download firmwar d files , I do think you need to be Risco certified partner for that ;)

But I have a local alarm company, they do the maintenance for my system, then check my sensors for fire and stuff, when they come, I provide them access with my account ;)

Within the next visit , maybe 1 , 2 years, I'll ask if they do the firmware... Offcourse also with my account... They don't make a problem of it.. I just paid for the service they do

[mancioshell]

@mancioshell didn't manage multiple partitions ?

Sorry for the delay of my reply. Yes i thing actual client manage only one partition. Next week i'll try to fix it. Sorry but i haven't more than one partition, so i can't test it directly.

[filmgarage]

What is the exact link to the repository? I try to add it to my config on my Hass.io installation but it does not show in the Add-on's list after adding what I thought was the right repo...

[pergolafabio]

It's not an add-on, it's a docker, so you need portainer add-on , or some other docker software to run containers... Then add alarm panel manually as described in readme

[rob1981forest]

One last question.....does everyone panel connect to their network at 10mbpd half duplex ?

Mine always has and I've not thought much about it but just swapped my switch for a Cisco 2960 and the interface won't come up.......used to have a bit so clever zyxel one but the Cisco won't work.....

Tried hard coding the port to 10/half and still no look........wondering if my module is faulty ?

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No, I have an verry old firmware... It works... I don't have access to Risco to download firmwar d files , I do think you need to be Risco certified partner for that ;)

But I have a local alarm company, they do the maintenance for my system, then check my sensors for fire and stuff, when they come, I provide them access with my account ;)

Within the next visit , maybe 1 , 2 years, I'll ask if they do the firmware... Offcourse also with my account... They don't make a problem of it.. I just paid for the service they do

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[lucacalcaterra]

Yeah, it's useless then... Local access, should be possible though, Wireshark should help, but I never checked it

Communication it's encrypted.... so ... no joy ! :-)

[pergolafabio]

Yeah, it's useless then... Local access, should be possible though, Wireshark should help, but I never checked it

Communication it's encrypted.... so ... no joy ! :-)

also on systems with older firmwares? is it just opening wireshark and look at the IP address of the system? is that all to see whats going on ?

[rob1981forest]

No the way you check for what speed it connect is from the network switch......if it's a managed one you can do this from the cli or web interface.......if it's just in your router from ISP it could be more difficult.

I managed to get it working......I neede to enable portfast (which is to do with spanning tree) and it finally came to life...

Still doesn't seem right that in this day we have things connected at 10mbps / half duplex

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Yeah, it's useless then... Local access, should be possible though, Wireshark should help, but I never checked it

Communication it's encrypted.... so ... no joy ! :-)

also on systems with older firmwares? is it just opening wireshark and look at the IP address of the system? is that all to see whats going on ?

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[pergolafabio]

ah you need portfast on a managed switch to capture wireshark data? otherwise its not possible?