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Analysis ready vector layer #2

Open patdevinwilson opened 3 years ago

patdevinwilson commented 3 years ago

How do I go about getting a SSURGO vector layer (geojson preferably) that is analysis ready? Coverage for the entire US.

dylanbeaudette commented 3 years ago

Hi thanks for the inquiry. Out of curiosity, how did you stumble across this very new and experimental repository?

I'm happy to help you find the data you need, but please keep in mind: SSURGO (the detailed soil survey of the USA) is one of the largest, most complex spatial databases in the world. The geometry alone, stored as binary and with the minimum of indexing required to use the data, is close to 70Gb. Adding some of the more commonly used tables (mapunit, component, chorizon, cointerp, etc.) pushes the size to over 100Gb.

Have a look at the soilDB package for various ways to access SSURGO data. I'd suggest starting with SDA and map unit key grid WCS.

https://github.com/ncss-tech/soilDB

patdevinwilson commented 3 years ago

I "Googled" for SSURGO bulk download and found this repo.

Right, I'm looking for a link to file/db that has SURRGO for ALL states (geometry + all the tables (mapunit, component, chorizon, cointerp, etc.) already built and packaged. Any ideas where I can find this?

dylanbeaudette commented 3 years ago

Right. Have a look at our gNATSGO product: https://www.nrcs.usda.gov/wps/portal/nrcs/detail/soils/survey/geo/?cid=nrcseprd1464625

EDIT: Chad is right, there are a lot of other (possibly smaller) options. What exactly do you have in mind?

cferguso commented 3 years ago

If you are after geometry, DO NOT download gNATSGO (the only spatially referenced layer is a raster), rather download gSSURGO at this linkhttps://nrcs.app.box.com/v/soils

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Right. Have a look at our gNATSGO product: https://www.nrcs.usda.gov/wps/portal/nrcs/detail/soils/survey/geo/?cid=nrcseprd1464625https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrcs.usda.gov%2Fwps%2Fportal%2Fnrcs%2Fdetail%2Fsoils%2Fsurvey%2Fgeo%2F%3Fcid%3Dnrcseprd1464625&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cd7d609afe1994ed0056208d92765cf99%7Ced5b36e701ee4ebc867ee03cfa0d4697%7C0%7C0%7C637584140493711907%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=MJMyROrkDw%2FYo5tx2Z8Pkyty982xzs8%2BhgcHzn1JQWM%3D&reserved=0

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patdevinwilson commented 3 years ago

Thank you. It seems trying to view the .gdb files in QGIS, FME, and GDAL(ogr2ogr) I am presented with licensing, dependency errors.

Please advise how to view this publicly available dataset in a non-proprietary platform.

Geodatabase Error (-2147467259): General function failure.

A fatal error has occurred. Check the logfile above for details Failed to obtain any schemas from reader 'FILEGDB' from 1 datasets. This may be due to invalid datasets or format accessibility issues due to licensing, dependencies, or module loading. See logfile for more information Program Terminating Translation FAILED.

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If you are after geometry, DO NOT download gNATSGO (the only spatially referenced layer is a raster), rather download gSSURGO at this link< https://nrcs.app.box.com/v/soils>

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Right. Have a look at our gNATSGO product:

https://www.nrcs.usda.gov/wps/portal/nrcs/detail/soils/survey/geo/?cid=nrcseprd1464625 < https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrcs.usda.gov%2Fwps%2Fportal%2Fnrcs%2Fdetail%2Fsoils%2Fsurvey%2Fgeo%2F%3Fcid%3Dnrcseprd1464625&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cd7d609afe1994ed0056208d92765cf99%7Ced5b36e701ee4ebc867ee03cfa0d4697%7C0%7C0%7C637584140493711907%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=MJMyROrkDw%2FYo5tx2Z8Pkyty982xzs8%2BhgcHzn1JQWM%3D&reserved=0

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cferguso commented 3 years ago

I do not have issue with viewing the CONUS gSSURGO MUPOLYGON layer in QGIS, see below.

I you could give us any insight as to what you're trying to accomplish, we could probably be more help. As Dylan identified, 'all' the data is asking for a lot. One suggestion I have right now is to pick a smaller state such as DE, MD, HI, NJ... and get your feet wet with that before you try and tackle the beast. I don't know how much experience you have working with our data model, but the geometry is next to useless without the tables and vice versa. There are 60+ tables in our model with many constraints, and as far as I know, the only places these are established for the user are through ESRI applications. We recognize this limitation of proprietary software and are in the process of developing a solution.

Again, if you can shed some light on what you're trying to do, we can probably get you headed in the right direction

Chad

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Thank you. It seems trying to view the .gdb files in QGIS, FME, and GDAL(ogr2ogr) I am presented with licensing, dependency errors.

Please advise how to view this publicly available dataset in a non-proprietary platform.

Geodatabase Error (-2147467259): General function failure.

A fatal error has occurred. Check the logfile above for details Failed to obtain any schemas from reader 'FILEGDB' from 1 datasets. This may be due to invalid datasets or format accessibility issues due to licensing, dependencies, or module loading. See logfile for more information Program Terminating Translation FAILED.

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On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 10:52 AM cferguso @.***> wrote:

If you are after geometry, DO NOT download gNATSGO (the only spatially referenced layer is a raster), rather download gSSURGO at this link< https://nrcs.app.box.com/v/soils>

@.D75927.328B5E30] From: Dylan Beaudette @.> Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 9:34 AM To: ncss-tech/Feedback @.> Cc: Subscribed @.> Subject: Re: [ncss-tech/Feedback] Analysis ready vector layer (#2)

Right. Have a look at our gNATSGO product:

https://www.nrcs.usda.gov/wps/portal/nrcs/detail/soils/survey/geo/?cid=nrcseprd1464625 < https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrcs.usda.gov%2Fwps%2Fportal%2Fnrcs%2Fdetail%2Fsoils%2Fsurvey%2Fgeo%2F%3Fcid%3Dnrcseprd1464625&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cd7d609afe1994ed0056208d92765cf99%7Ced5b36e701ee4ebc867ee03cfa0d4697%7C0%7C0%7C637584140493711907%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=MJMyROrkDw%2FYo5tx2Z8Pkyty982xzs8%2BhgcHzn1JQWM%3D&reserved=0

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patdevinwilson commented 3 years ago

I've unzipped (using Winzip) as you can see, but am still seeing an issue reading in QGIS. I intend to use this dataset to model predictions for site suitability across the US.

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On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 1:50 PM cferguso @.***> wrote:

I do not have issue with viewing the CONUS gSSURGO MUPOLYGON layer in QGIS, see below.

I you could give us any insight as to what you're trying to accomplish, we could probably be more help. As Dylan identified, 'all' the data is asking for a lot. One suggestion I have right now is to pick a smaller state such as DE, MD, HI, NJ... and get your feet wet with that before you try and tackle the beast. I don't know how much experience you have working with our data model, but the geometry is next to useless without the tables and vice versa. There are 60+ tables in our model with many constraints, and as far as I know, the only places these are established for the user are through ESRI applications. We recognize this limitation of proprietary software and are in the process of developing a solution.

Again, if you can shed some light on what you're trying to do, we can probably get you headed in the right direction

Chad

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Thank you. It seems trying to view the .gdb files in QGIS, FME, and GDAL(ogr2ogr) I am presented with licensing, dependency errors.

Please advise how to view this publicly available dataset in a non-proprietary platform.

Geodatabase Error (-2147467259): General function failure.

A fatal error has occurred. Check the logfile above for details Failed to obtain any schemas from reader 'FILEGDB' from 1 datasets. This may be due to invalid datasets or format accessibility issues due to licensing, dependencies, or module loading. See logfile for more information Program Terminating Translation FAILED.

Patrick Wilson

Geospatial Engineer

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On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 10:52 AM cferguso @.***> wrote:

If you are after geometry, DO NOT download gNATSGO (the only spatially referenced layer is a raster), rather download gSSURGO at this link< https://nrcs.app.box.com/v/soils>

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Right. Have a look at our gNATSGO product:

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patdevinwilson commented 3 years ago

It looks like featline, mupoint, mupolygon, muline have zero features? Is that expected? [image: image.png]

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I've unzipped (using Winzip) as you can see, but am still seeing an issue reading in QGIS. I intend to use this dataset to model predictions for site suitability across the US.

[image: image.png] [image: Screen Shot 2021-06-04 at 2.49.29 PM.png]

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I do not have issue with viewing the CONUS gSSURGO MUPOLYGON layer in QGIS, see below.

I you could give us any insight as to what you're trying to accomplish, we could probably be more help. As Dylan identified, 'all' the data is asking for a lot. One suggestion I have right now is to pick a smaller state such as DE, MD, HI, NJ... and get your feet wet with that before you try and tackle the beast. I don't know how much experience you have working with our data model, but the geometry is next to useless without the tables and vice versa. There are 60+ tables in our model with many constraints, and as far as I know, the only places these are established for the user are through ESRI applications. We recognize this limitation of proprietary software and are in the process of developing a solution.

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Thank you. It seems trying to view the .gdb files in QGIS, FME, and GDAL(ogr2ogr) I am presented with licensing, dependency errors.

Please advise how to view this publicly available dataset in a non-proprietary platform.

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If you are after geometry, DO NOT download gNATSGO (the only spatially referenced layer is a raster), rather download gSSURGO at this link< https://nrcs.app.box.com/v/soils>

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Right. Have a look at our gNATSGO product:

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cferguso commented 3 years ago

Yes, that is almost always the case. I’d say 99.5%

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It looks like featline, mupoint, mupolygon, muline have zero features? Is that expected? [image: image.png]

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I've unzipped (using Winzip) as you can see, but am still seeing an issue reading in QGIS. I intend to use this dataset to model predictions for site suitability across the US.

[image: image.png] [image: Screen Shot 2021-06-04 at 2.49.29 PM.png]

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I do not have issue with viewing the CONUS gSSURGO MUPOLYGON layer in QGIS, see below.

I you could give us any insight as to what you're trying to accomplish, we could probably be more help. As Dylan identified, 'all' the data is asking for a lot. One suggestion I have right now is to pick a smaller state such as DE, MD, HI, NJ... and get your feet wet with that before you try and tackle the beast. I don't know how much experience you have working with our data model, but the geometry is next to useless without the tables and vice versa. There are 60+ tables in our model with many constraints, and as far as I know, the only places these are established for the user are through ESRI applications. We recognize this limitation of proprietary software and are in the process of developing a solution.

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Chad

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Thank you. It seems trying to view the .gdb files in QGIS, FME, and GDAL(ogr2ogr) I am presented with licensing, dependency errors.

Please advise how to view this publicly available dataset in a non-proprietary platform.

Geodatabase Error (-2147467259): General function failure.

A fatal error has occurred. Check the logfile above for details Failed to obtain any schemas from reader 'FILEGDB' from 1 datasets. This may be due to invalid datasets or format accessibility issues due to licensing, dependencies, or module loading. See logfile for more information Program Terminating Translation FAILED.

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If you are after geometry, DO NOT download gNATSGO (the only spatially referenced layer is a raster), rather download gSSURGO at this link< https://nrcs.app.box.com/v/soils>

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Right. Have a look at our gNATSGO product:

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cferguso commented 3 years ago

Scratch my last email. Mupolugon is the meat of spatial data. mupoint and muline will almost never have anything.

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Yes, that is almost always the case. I’d say 99.5%

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It looks like featline, mupoint, mupolygon, muline have zero features? Is that expected? [image: image.png]

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On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 2:53 PM Patrick Wilson @.***> wrote:

I've unzipped (using Winzip) as you can see, but am still seeing an issue reading in QGIS. I intend to use this dataset to model predictions for site suitability across the US.

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I do not have issue with viewing the CONUS gSSURGO MUPOLYGON layer in QGIS, see below.

I you could give us any insight as to what you're trying to accomplish, we could probably be more help. As Dylan identified, 'all' the data is asking for a lot. One suggestion I have right now is to pick a smaller state such as DE, MD, HI, NJ... and get your feet wet with that before you try and tackle the beast. I don't know how much experience you have working with our data model, but the geometry is next to useless without the tables and vice versa. There are 60+ tables in our model with many constraints, and as far as I know, the only places these are established for the user are through ESRI applications. We recognize this limitation of proprietary software and are in the process of developing a solution.

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Thank you. It seems trying to view the .gdb files in QGIS, FME, and GDAL(ogr2ogr) I am presented with licensing, dependency errors.

Please advise how to view this publicly available dataset in a non-proprietary platform.

Geodatabase Error (-2147467259): General function failure.

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If you are after geometry, DO NOT download gNATSGO (the only spatially referenced layer is a raster), rather download gSSURGO at this link< https://nrcs.app.box.com/v/soils>

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Right. Have a look at our gNATSGO product:

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patdevinwilson commented 3 years ago

That’s what I figured, I will continue to battle this over the weekend.

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Scratch my last email. Mupolugon is the meat of spatial data. mupoint and muline will almost never have anything.

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Yes, that is almost always the case. I’d say 99.5%

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It looks like featline, mupoint, mupolygon, muline have zero features? Is that expected? [image: image.png]

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I've unzipped (using Winzip) as you can see, but am still seeing an issue reading in QGIS. I intend to use this dataset to model predictions for site suitability across the US.

[image: image.png] [image: Screen Shot 2021-06-04 at 2.49.29 PM.png]

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On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 1:50 PM cferguso @.***> wrote:

I do not have issue with viewing the CONUS gSSURGO MUPOLYGON layer in QGIS, see below.

I you could give us any insight as to what you're trying to accomplish, we could probably be more help. As Dylan identified, 'all' the data is asking for a lot. One suggestion I have right now is to pick a smaller state such as DE, MD, HI, NJ... and get your feet wet with that before you try and tackle the beast. I don't know how much experience you have working with our data model, but the geometry is next to useless without the tables and vice versa. There are 60+ tables in our model with many constraints, and as far as I know, the only places these are established for the user are through ESRI applications. We recognize this limitation of proprietary software and are in the process of developing a solution.

Again, if you can shed some light on what you're trying to do, we can probably get you headed in the right direction

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Thank you. It seems trying to view the .gdb files in QGIS, FME, and GDAL(ogr2ogr) I am presented with licensing, dependency errors.

Please advise how to view this publicly available dataset in a non-proprietary platform.

Geodatabase Error (-2147467259): General function failure.

A fatal error has occurred. Check the logfile above for details Failed to obtain any schemas from reader 'FILEGDB' from 1 datasets. This may be due to invalid datasets or format accessibility issues due to licensing, dependencies, or module loading. See logfile for more information Program Terminating Translation FAILED.

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If you are after geometry, DO NOT download gNATSGO (the only spatially referenced layer is a raster), rather download gSSURGO at this link< https://nrcs.app.box.com/v/soils>

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Right. Have a look at our gNATSGO product:

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