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Explicit Consequences for "Public Shaming" #1

Closed Pewpewarrows closed 11 years ago

Pewpewarrows commented 11 years ago

In addition to:

Public shaming can be counter-productive to building a strong community. PyCon does not condone nor participate in such actions out of respect.

I'd personally like to see consequences spelled out for any individual who feels the need to go beyond the official, private channels for reporting CoC violations This would include posting names, photos, or personal information of alleged offenders publicly on the Internet, or inciting witch hunts against those individuals.

Referring to incidents or offenders in the abstract would be fine, as PyCon itself does in follow-up reports.

kstrauser commented 11 years ago

How would you phrase that? Write up how you think it might look and issue a pull request to include your new language. Even if it doesn't get included, a proposal would give everyone a starting point to tweak or replace.

georgedorn commented 11 years ago

"If a participant engages in behavior that violates this code of conduct, the conference organizers may take any action they deem appropriate, including warning the offender or expulsion from the conference with no refund."

This seems to cover all violations pretty easily. I do not see why any one violation should be singled out for additional explicit consequences.

kstrauser commented 11 years ago

Ok, but how would you phrase the "public shaming" clause to make it clear that it's subject to the same penalties as other violations?

elofgren commented 11 years ago

"Ok, but how would you phrase the "public shaming" clause to make it clear that it's subject to the same penalties as other violations?"

This is implied by its very existence, and I don't think needs to be expressly outlined any more than any other clause needs language making it clear that it's subject to the same penalties. That being said, I think the clause is both utterly unneeded and I find the existence of this Issue, especially as Issue #1 to be...disappointing, to say the least.

jnoller commented 11 years ago

The current language on tip more clearly expresses the soul and intent of what I was trying to poorly word. Pycon in no way will sanction those who make public reports as that would have an immediate counter effect of making all such reports against the rules.

Our primary goal is the safety of everyone: this is why the new text focuses on why we ask to have a chance to investigate first. I'm closing this issue as I concur: it's current wording is more harmful than positive. Please file a new one if the current, up to date code of conduct and staff/attendee guidelines are unclear.