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BetterNether Mod
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[Suggestion] Nerf nether city #185

Closed zeid0ne closed 2 months ago

zeid0ne commented 7 months ago

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Hi, first thanks for all. I think the nether city are way too op. I have two separate point :

1)

Find netherite block in nether city is too op by far. It's the equivalent of 9*4 = 36 Netherite scrap + 36 gold ingot. And you need to add to that all the other Netherite scrap of the structure. And it's not so hard to bridge to the tower, breaking walls, and loot chests without fighting. By all these reasons, i think the mod should replace netherite block by netherite ingot. I also think the chance of netherite scrap should be lowered a little.

2)

Spawnproof a nether fortress is a funny thing to do, hard, but with a good reward. With a nether city, spawnproof became irrevelant cause of wither spawners. Is it possible to replace these spawner with a spawner that spawn wither that dont drop loots please ?

If you disagree with 1) or 2), is it possible to add an option to disable nether city ?

thanks for reading

purejosh commented 5 months ago

I was just about to create an issue, but this nails it. There's absolutely zero reason why netherite blocks need to be in loot tables, for this structure set. It is not difficult to find a nether city. In fact, an argument could be made that there should be absolutely zero netherite in these cities. Thankfully, editing new tables is pretty easy, so I'm going to be doing that.

The much more difficult thing to fix is the wither spawners in the city. I'm sorry if my words are direct, and come off as irritable, but there are zero reasons why wither spawners need to be used here. Because of wither skeleton farms, having these wither skeleton spawners means that nobody in their right mind would waste hours or days spawn proofing or building a wither skeleton farm, when they can spend 5 minutes in a nether city to build a farm from spawners. They have the same loot table as regular wither skeletons, and that absolutely baffles me.

Loot tables can be fixed with datapacks, however I still think the loot table needs to be dramatically nerfed. As far as the wither spawners, please strongly consider removing them entirely. A suitable replacement for wither spawners would simply be natural spawning in the bounding box of the structure. It's the same way that nether fortresses spawn their wither skeletons, and BN should use that exact same method for nether cities.

I'm not trying to be rude, I'm just surprised that these incredibly unbalanced changes were made in the first place. BN is basically the number one absolute go-to for nether world generation modification, and I'm sure everyone would agree with me that these nether cities are in need of some revision.

zeid0ne commented 2 months ago

closing this as i have no response

purejosh commented 2 months ago

You really shouldn't close it. If it's closed, it's out of the view of the dev. Please reopen.