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Steam launches in infinite loop in Standard (yellow) box without Admin privileges #3484

Closed ghost closed 8 months ago

ghost commented 9 months ago

Describe what you noticed and did

  1. Create a brand new Standard box and set its Preset to "Drop" or "Emulate Admin Rights"
  2. Download and install the latest version of Steam

  3. Launch Steam

  4. Steam gets launched, closed, launched again ad infinitum
  5. The only way to get around it is to launch Steam with Admin privileges - "Ask for UAC Elevation" Sandbox preset enabled
  6. Steam works fine in Application Compartment (green) box, to be precise all a box requires is a following line in its INI config: NoSecurityIsolation=y
  7. Alternatively it is possible to launch Steam properly in Standard box via Run Menu using -cef-disable-sandbox parameter

How often did you encounter it so far?

Always

Affected program

Steam

Download link

https://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/client/installer/SteamSetup.exe

Where is the program located?

The program is installed only inside a sandbox (NOT in the real system anyway).

Expected behavior

It would be expected to be able to launch Steam properly.

What is your Windows edition and version?

Windows 7 x64

In which Windows account you have this problem?

An account with UAC protection completely turned off.

Please mention any installed security software

Microsoft Security Essentials

What version of Sandboxie are you running?

Sandboxie Plus 1.12.3 x64

Is it a new installation of Sandboxie?

I just updated Sandboxie from a previous version (I don't remember which one).

Is it a regression?

No response

In which sandbox type you have this problem?

In a standard isolation sandbox (yellow sandbox icon).

Can you reproduce this problem on a new empty sandbox?

I can confirm it also on a new empty sandbox.

Did you previously enable some security policy settings outside Sandboxie?

No response

Crash dump

No response

Trace log

No response

Sandboxie.ini configuration

No response

e-t-l commented 8 months ago

I cannot reproduce this problem. I have Steam installed in a standard yellow sandbox and it launches without issue. I'll share my config below, and you can see there's nothing I had to do regarding admin rights. I do not run Steam as administrator.

What is your Windows edition and version?

Windows 7 x64

In which Windows account you have this problem?

An account with UAC protection completely turned off.

I suspect this is your problem. You are running a pretty outdated version of Windows that Steam does not support. You also have UAC completely disabled, which, 1) Why would you even do that? Why are you using Sandboxie? Any "security" it might offer you is completely negated by disabling UAC. 2) Disabling UAC may be interfering with some process that expects it, maybe that's causing some of your admin-related Steam problems.

Anyway, to reiterate, this issue is not reproducible running Sandboxie 1.12.6 on Windows 11.

(EDIT: I just realized I had already posted a very similar comment at https://github.com/sandboxie-plus/Sandboxie/discussions/2927#discussioncomment-7806600. I apologize for being repetitive)

ghost commented 8 months ago

@e-t-l It has nothing to do with me having UAC disabled in Windows. I use Sandboxie with "Emulate Admin Rights" or with "Drop Admin Rights" presets. It works fine in Application Compartment box but not in the yellow box, while both share the same preset. Steam outside Sandboxie works fine for me though it is not being officialy supported since 1st of January.

e-t-l commented 8 months ago

Then it probably has something to do with using a 15-year-old operating system. A lot of the under-the-hood OS stuff of Windows 7 is significantly different from Win 8, which is significantly different from Win 10-11. I imagine that some of the developments in Sandboxie that make Steam work in a standard box for modern OSes involve some components that simply aren't present in Win 7.

DavidXanatos commented 8 months ago

I would normally look into a win 7 issue but given that steam announced their software being discontinued on windows 7 entirely there is no point. I assume steam wont allow you to use an outdated steam client indefinitely hence steam on windows 7 is very soon very dead, no mater what sandboxie does.

Zymlex commented 2 months ago

Same problem.

Alternatively it is possible to launch Steam properly in Standard box via Run Menu using -cef-disable-sandbox parameter

This problem is with many chromium based applications and it is necessary to disable chromium sandbox.