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Help Radio Open Source podcast boot up a community #201

Open scripting opened 3 years ago

scripting commented 3 years ago

If you're a regular listener to Radio Open Source, and would like to help boot up a nice community around this foundational podcast, please send me an email or leave a comment here.

andysylvester commented 3 years ago

I am interested - count me in!

scripting commented 3 years ago

Andy you'd be perfect for this project. To be clear, it's not a paying job -- it's a user bootstrap. It'll be presented as a gift to Chris and Mary (she's been the producer of his show as long as I've known them, about 15 years now).

I want to keep it simple, so here's what's needed:

  1. A WordPress blog with comments turned on.

  2. Every time there's a new show, start a page, with the title and description from their site or RSS feed. A link to the audio perhaps.

  3. Then you send a link to the new page to, let's say to start, me and Mary. We have to find someone on their end to receive the link. The idea is that then they'd link to it from the main site, and perhaps even mention it on the show. Chris loves getting comments, so it's likely, if it's good, and they trust it, they will promote it.

  4. Moderate comments. Removing any personal, off-topic, promotional, spam, etc. The comment must be about the show they are commenting on.

  5. For now the domain should be something from scripting.com, since I have no ability to add something to radioopensource.org. Eventually it would be nice to get a domain like discuss.radioopensource.org, and also to pass it off to whoever updates their site. Someone is doing it, I just don't know who. Also they must have someone managing the domain, again at this time I don't know who that is.

To Chris and Mary, this would seem like a lot of work, but for you and I, we know this is just a small bit of work to start and every week. But you can handle it Andy, so as far as I'm concerned you're the guy for the job.

BTW, Thursday is their show day, so I wouldn't expect to hear anything from them at least until Friday, and maybe a bit of time after that. It may take a few weeks to get this show on the road. But I have the ability to get the word out immediately, which I will do once it's set up.

For the initial domain, how about rdiscuss.scripting.com?

andysylvester commented 3 years ago

Dave, it sounds great! The domain is fine, I am assuming you want me to set up and host the WordPress site, is that correct? If yes, I can set up a test site at lunch time (noon Pacific time), then coordinate on setting up the domain. Let me know....

scripting commented 3 years ago

Also, to give you an idea of what we're replicating.

https://web.archive.org/web/20151230034930/http://blogs.harvard.edu/lydondev/2003/11/24/#a433

andysylvester commented 3 years ago

The test site is up at https://andysylvester.com/rdiscuss/

The theme is "Twenty Twenty One" (default), let me know if you have a theme in mind.

Let me know if you want to coordinate domain stuff here on this issue or some other method, thanks.

scripting commented 3 years ago

It's good that there's a site, but it should not say it's radio discuss. that's not what it's for.

Also it would be a good idea to put up a page for last week's show, let's go over that.

To get an idea, look at the archive.org site I posted a link to.

andysylvester commented 3 years ago

I modified the initial post to have text from last week's episode, also changed to a two-column theme following the archive.org site. WordPress has a site name and a tag line setting, let me know what you would like there.

scripting commented 3 years ago

Andy, that's very nice. You got the idea. :-)

Now, when the next episode comes out today, do the same thing.

And add some links in the sidebar.

  1. Link back to radioopensource.org with "Main Site"

  2. Link to the podcast feed.

  3. Link to the discuss feed.

And next up, let's do the domain mapping. Is this running on a server whose domain you control? Can you allocate a TLD for me to create a CNAME for?

andysylvester commented 3 years ago

I have added links to the sidebar per your comment. I control the domain (andysylvester.com), and have created a subdomain for the site (rdiscuss.andysylvester.com). I have not updated the settings in WordPress to point to this yet, I would prefer to wait on that until you create your CNAME record. Let me know when your CNAME is complete.

scripting commented 3 years ago

I've set up http://rdiscuss.scripting.com/ to point at rdiscuss.andysylvester.com.

Would it be possible to have a voice chat about the site now? It'll go a lot faster that way..

Just a few things to talk about...

andysylvester commented 3 years ago

Yes, will send a DM in a minute.

andysylvester commented 3 years ago

The following updates are complete:

  1. Changed site title to "Radio Open Source Discussion", site title is now all on one line
  2. Selected a new theme (P2) that displays comments on the home page and displays post text in a smaller font.
  3. Cleaned up links on sidebar
  4. http://rdiscuss.scripting.com is now redirecting correctly.

Let me know what you think!

scripting commented 3 years ago

For the record, a voicemail I sent to the people at Radio Open Source and to Andy.

http://scripting.com/2021/03/01/voicemailReRadioOpenSource.m4a

scripting commented 3 years ago

I just created a new account, signed on, and entered a comment. It seems to work. ;-)

I think we're in good shape now for the next episode. When it comes out, I'll start the promoting I talked about in the voicemail.

scripting commented 3 years ago

I just thought of something else. As I describe in the voicemail, we're going to need concise and brutal comment guidelines. Could you put this in a page linked to from the sidebar, under Comment Guidelines.

Comment guidelines

  1. No personal comments about anyone.
  2. Stay on-topic.Comment only on the podcast episode you're commenting on.
  3. No discussion of products or services, no spam.
  4. No political advocacy.
  5. Be brief, get to the point quickly.
  6. No arguing.

Any posts that violate these rules will be deleted. If you do it a second or third time, your account will be blocked.

These rules are based on decades of experience moderating online discussions. Talk briefly about the ideas in the podcast episode and all is good. :-)

andysylvester commented 3 years ago

Latest updates:

  1. Updated the tag line, the theme does not allow HTML in that field (saw you had a link to RadioOpenSource.org in your example), will take an action to see how to get that to work.
  2. Added a WordPress page with comment guidelines, let me know if that is the look you want, or if you want something different.

I will set up another user ID to test commenting to see how that looks as a user. You were not an admin at the time you posted (but I have changed your role from user to administrator since then).

I listened to the voicemail above, I think the above changes cover the items there, will wait for further feedback.

scripting commented 3 years ago

Andy a few comments.

  1. This box at the top of the page shouldn't be here.

  2. The page loads slowly from here. It feels like the DNS redirect is the source of the slowness.

  3. There's a new episode.

scripting commented 3 years ago

Oy. I just discovered they have a discussion section on their website.

https://radioopensource.org/plague-year-two/#comments

That's where comments go for the current episode.

I apologize for not looking more carefully.

I posted a comment there to see if anyone would reply.

Also, if you scroll to the bottom of the excellent Billie Holiday episode, no comments.

https://radioopensource.org/lisa-hallidays-asymmetry/

andysylvester commented 3 years ago

Created a post for this week's episode.

The site takes about 4 seconds to load for me, is your load time longer?

I think the box you are seeing at the top of the page is the quick post entry box. This is a feature of this theme, but I will look into if this can be turned off. If you are not logged into the site, you will not see the box.

The Billie Holliday episode actually has 7 comments (https://radioopensource.org/billie-holiday-at-100/) , your link is to another episode (which indeed does not have any comments).

scripting commented 3 years ago

Andy, I'd say don't worry about the box or the loading time. The situation is more complex than I thought, and I still haven't heard back from them. All factors that say let's pause this and think, learn and listen some more.

andysylvester commented 3 years ago

Created a new post for this week's episode, FYI.