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Rev 2 board doesn't fit on Rev 3 Amiga 500 motherboards #3

Open MatGrump opened 1 year ago

MatGrump commented 1 year ago

The inductor LF1 is lower on Rev 3 boards and doesn't allow for installation of the REV 2 RGD2HDMI board. See attached images

https://imgur.com/a/YwSwP5C

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solarmon commented 1 year ago

Hi,

That is not one of my RGBtoHDMI board for the A500.

It looks like it is from PM Developments:

https://www.facebook.com/PMDevelopments/ https://www.instagram.com/pmdevelopments/

You'll have to raise that with that developer.

MatGrump commented 1 year ago

yes sorry. I noticed after i posted it. It looks like yours has taken this into consideration.

solarmon commented 1 year ago

No worries. I can't remember whether I actually tested with a rev 3 board - I'll have to dig it out to check!

MatGrump commented 1 year ago

No problem, if you need me to measure anything please let me know.

solarmon commented 1 year ago

Actually, I don't have a rev 3. I was thinking of a rev 5, which I do have.

Using an image I found of the rev 3, I overlayed an image of my latest RGBtoHDMI A500 board, and that looks like it wouldn't fit either:

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The coil is definitely much lower in a rev 3 board!

I can think of three options you might have:

  1. Use the original RGBtoHDMI board design, which doesn't have a pi relocator.

  2. Use my RGBtoHDMI Amiga Denise CPLD FFC Rev 1.1 (https://github.com/solarmon/RGBtoHDMI#rgbtohdmi-amiga-denise-cpld-ffc-rev-11) with a RGBtoHDMI Amiga Denise DIP Breakout FFC (https://github.com/solarmon/RGBtoHDMI#rgbtohdmi-amiga-denise-dip-breakout-ffc).

  3. Replace the Denise socket on the RGBtoHDMI board with ones with longer pins that pass straight through. This shift down the board a bit, which MIGHT work. I use such a socket for my RGBtoHDMI CDTV solution and it also makes it a bit lower profile.

solarmon commented 1 year ago

The latest LinuxJedi design, looks like it should support rev 3 motherboards:

https://github.com/LinuxJedi/AmigaRGBtoHDMI/tree/main/Amiga500CPLD

MatGrump commented 1 year ago

Some good solutions. I have the option to return this board and get another which is probably what I will do for now while I think about a different solution. The LinuxJedi looks like the simplest way forward but they are out of stock.

Thanks for all the help, even though it wasn't even your board. Very much appreciated.

Retrofletch commented 1 year ago

I made a longer version based on the old linuxjedi version that i think also would fit. longboy_rev3

and there is also this version that should fit: https://github.com/nobodyisinocent/RGBtoHDMI#tiny-rgb2hdmi-cpld-design-

Just for future reference :)

ehalebi commented 1 year ago

@solarmon is it possible to make a Extralong version of CPLD 500 PCB with your FF addons? Retrofletch has one, but without FF OSD support.

regards

Retrofletch commented 1 year ago

It would be quite easy to make solarmons design a bit longer to fit but i just dont have the time at this moment

ehalebi commented 1 year ago

@solarmon is that something you could do? Maybe 5-8cm longer. So a lot of people got a Gotek drive and want to add also HDMI to their A500s. And if you also got an accelerator card sitting on a 90 degree Relocator, than this will be the BEST RGB2HDMI Solution .

only thing missing is still an onboard audio embedder/injector for all of the RGB2HDMI PCBs.

ehalebi commented 1 year ago

I have bought an audio Inserter for installing it internally in my A500 image

solarmon commented 1 year ago

@ehalebi

It can certainly be done, but unfortunately, this is not high my list (if at all). Probably the only reason I would work on this again, is to create a PLCC version of it.

Regards,

Mon

ehalebi commented 11 months ago

Do I need to buy software to do this?

regards

solarmon commented 11 months ago

@ehalebi

Do I need to buy software to do this?

regards

To do what?

ehalebi commented 11 months ago

To extend manually the length of your PCB? Or is there decent freeware to do such kind of jobs. I would probably try my own.

solarmon commented 11 months ago

@ehalebi

The PCB design was done using KiCAD, which is an open source application - https://www.kicad.org/

But be warned - it is a very steep learning curve if you don't already have experience in PCB design.