open street map IDs

[trebor]

i THINK we are going to want some way to connect public goods and other artifacts to the items recorded in open street maps. @sujitmhj do you have access to OSM IDs? can they be added to the data?

i need to figure out how to show these in the map.

[UpamanyuDatta]

Hi Trebor, A bit out of my depth here, but I will catch up with Sujit to understand the changes you are bringing on to the repo. It's just that I am completely lost in Git now!

Anyway, when you want to connect the goods (in Kobo) to items (in OSM) which items are you thinking about? The larger network of roads and the point data on toles? In any case, the OSM IDs can be retrieved for both goods and items, as they were all put into OSM first.

Upu

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i THINK we are going to want some way to connect public goods and other artifacts to the items recorded in open street maps. @sujitmhj https://github.com/sujitmhj do you have access to OSM IDs? can they be added to the data?

i need to figure out how to show these in the map.

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[trebor]

@UpamanyuDatta - no worries on git! i don't expect you to jump into the code unless you want to - in which case i'd be happy to give you a tour. your comments on issues was all that i was expecting. :)

by the way please please add any feature ideas you have as new issues. i would way rather have many ideas to work with. :)

yes goods and items are what i was thinking to connect. i was thinking that it would be good to explicitly show what data "we" have added to OSM.

i don't think i know what Kobo is. can you share a link to a document or service that describes that?

[UpamanyuDatta]

Good morning Trebor, Completely forgot. How was your first week at the new job? Really appreciate you working on the weekends to give shape to the Sangai agenda. Hope it's not too crazy at the work front yet.

I am trying a couple of ideas out on R to see whether we have the data for it and what comes out. In the meantime, Sujit and I had a chat with Sabin and Sarita, who will go to the field sometime next week. The plan is to give them some prototype that they can use to have a conversation with. While we build up the react app gradually systematically, we can use an r-based prototype to anchor the discussions when they are down there.

Now, we faced a little bottleneck. When trying to retrieve the distance matrix, the routing engine API is throwing an error for some type of assets. Hoping its a temporary glitch. But it could be due to issues with the underlying road network data in Dhankuta, in case we'd look for some other fix. Sujit, I believe you still continue to face issues in generating the matrix?

On Kobo (Kobo Toolbox): This is the data collection software that was used to collect information on assets by citizen mappers. All the asset data is coming through that. It is open source and easily customized, and so was our choice in this exercise.

Let me know if you have other questions. I am working on some features in the r-prototype, and will reach out when they take some shape to get your thoughts...and bring into react if we find it is useful. Upu

On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 1:41 PM Robert Harris @.***> wrote:

@UpamanyuDatta https://github.com/UpamanyuDatta - no worries on git! i don't expect you to jump into the code unless you want to - in which case i'd be happy to give you a tour. your comments on issues was all that i was expecting. :)

by the way please please add any feature ideas you have as new issues. i would way rather have many ideas to work with. :)

yes goods and items are what i was thinking to connect. i was thinking that it would be good to explicitly show what data "we" have added to OSM.

i don't think i know what Kobo is. can you share a link to a document or service that describes that?

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[sujitmhj]

@trebor I think we don't have to think about putting the data into OSM right now. We have the OSM IDs for the public assets and we plan to update the OSM data using our data collected from kobotoolbox but it will be synced from backend. Since the assets were first listed in OSM, the assets are already there in OSM and the data that we plan to update in OSM will be contribution from us which is not our priority right now.

[trebor]

@UpamanyuDatta thanks for the details! @sujitmhj had showed me Kobo Toolbox, i had just forgotten the name.

Sujit and I had a chat with Sabin and Sarita, who will go to the field sometime next week. The plan is to give them some prototype that they can use to have a conversation with.

is that plan show this UI?

[UpamanyuDatta]

Dear Trebor, I am throwing in some visual analyses into a Shiny app, as a prototype that can be used to anchor discussions. Hopefully folks at Dhankuta will use that as a starting point and provide more concrete recommendations that we can incorporate into the React app. The React app will be the mainstay, while this app a temporary repository of some analyses.

I just deployed the Shniy app at https://upamanyudatta.shinyapps.io/LocalDataDraft1/

It has two main tabs, one using maps as the visual platform and the other using a combination of chart and list as the visual-analytical platform. The latter is intended more for municipal/ward functionaries, but am curious to see if it finds purchase with tole committee members too.

Anyway, in the first tab, you can plot all assets, or assets by type. Each asset would have some info displayed, which are coming from the Kobo data. We can overlay toles into this, and request the distance to the nearest asset of a certain type. An addition from our last discussion is that we can filter a particular asset type by sub categories, and rerun the analysis. For example, it can plot all educational institutes and all toles, and show the most remote toles. But you can filter certain educational institutes by category, for example colleges, and see how far each tole is from the closest college.

In the second tab, we can view ward and municipal level budget allocations, overall and across major programs. We can also weight the allocations by ward and municipal level demographic info (such as population, area, population density) to maybe have a discussion about equity.

Please take a look when you have time, and let me know what you think. I am going to be away till Sunday afternoon, but maybe we can have a chat on Sunday evening if that works for you to touch base? Upu

On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 11:38 AM Robert Harris @.***> wrote:

@UpamanyuDatta https://github.com/UpamanyuDatta thanks for the details! @sujitmhj https://github.com/sujitmhj had showed me Kobo Toolbox https://www.kobotoolbox.org/, i had just forgotten the name.

Sujit and I had a chat with Sabin and Sarita, who will go to the field sometime next week. The plan is to give them some prototype that they can use to have a conversation with.

is that plan show this UI?

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