vrathi0
commented
3 hours ago Shalini | October 20, 2024
- Less bullish on looking at heterogeneity along if ministries are aligned vs non-aligned. Although, didnt feel like had good argument.
- Try merging or looking closely at states like Karnataka as they are more open to releasing their CS to center.
- So teh trajectory is bit more complicated wrt empellement of CS. EMP is going to the centre, but that tenure is limited to a few years (usually 5) and they can come back/usually do come back. However it is not clear, who stays back and then who are the people that climb till cabinet sec position or at the top echelons. (NEED MORE INFO).
- However, usually this is the process:
- Around year 10/ at Dpt Sec stage, the CS HAS to apply proactively to be considered for centre deputation. At this point it usually last for a couple of years (?). If chosen, s\he gets to go. Proactive application seems to be a requirement, and they are not hand picked.
- At the JS stage, a CS is only considered if they had applied at Dpt Sect stage. [Question: what happens if the CS had applied but gotten rejected?. In the data we can also observe some people getting to center for the first time. If someone gets picked up at JS stage then it is fair to assume that they had applied to DS stage too? Although, in the data its unlikely to distinguish between people who never applied and people who were rejected both times]
- Then, if selected they go but usually come back after a few years [ HOW MANY POSTINGS? OR HOW MANY YEARS].
REMAINING QUESTIONS:
- Need better understanding of the pipeline both Jnr Admin Grade to JS and from JS to upwards. My understanding is that there is a selection at all points, but then they also talk about line of succession. So precise question is, at what point the routine promotions stop and selection takes over.
- Centre Deputation at JS level: How long is the usual tenure.
- List of "Good Dept" vs list of "Bad Dept". This is hard to get from the data itself, need real world validation.
- Does the centre deput rate vary over time at state level [ QUESTION TO THE DATA]
- List of centre schemes that need high level of involvement from states/districts split into two: money involve, money not involved (atleast directly).
General Points unrelated to this project.
-
Shalini can potentially have information about where to look for things that have been recently digitized. She mentioned one centre scholarship scheme that was digitized and suddenly the beneficiary number dropped to HALF, removing all the fakes from the system. There must be other such examples, where the digitization has improved efficiency of the scheme. On the other end of the things, it has reduced rent seeking opportunity for people at the front end of the bureaucracy. Possibly useful data: Some pre and post data of number of benefificiaries by district-year. Can be a metric for exposure of the bcracy to centre funds.
-
It seems like most of the land records have been digitized in recent past across states. Exact timeline might not be easily available but perhaps binary coding at the year level is possible, where it turn 1 at the year when the process was complete. Useful links: MIS SYSTEM- to be updated by Oct 30, 24 Info Link
-
Shalini is also perhaps involved in Electronics and IT ministry and can have something to say about PLI schemes and may other related sector level subsidy schemes aimed at improving industrial activity. https://www.myscheme.gov.in/schemes/dot-pli-scheme#benefits https://www.meity.gov.in/esdm/pli
Priyamvad | May 25, 2024
The thinking till now of district level matching between CS and politicians may be quite faulty. Following notes are after call with Priyamvad on 25th May 24
Broadly, three things might influence the movement of CS:
Connection : If the CS is connected to senior level politicians or bureaucrats. Image: There is an idea of the image that the CS carries. The image might be reflected in if the CS gets more international training exposure, posting in new kind of projects (more challengeing) etc. Just presence of vacancies. Possible ways to categories Bureaucrats:
Look at center or state budgets over time. Some departments would have higher budget allocation and therefore budget allocation can be a relative signal of importance. Some ministries might have better facilities and therefore would be more coveted (like PWD maybe) as compared to other departments where you are more or less on the sidelines (like culture promotion, national integration etc).
Some key identifiers might be instances or international exposure (like WB or other organizations). Who gets it and at what stage?
Posted in highly connected office like PMO or CMO.
Posted in some dept that oversees other departments (eg ?? perhaps FInance, etc).
At DM level, you can identify CS posted to bigger or better cities vs DM posted to smaller towns/districts.
CS getting opportunites as CEO of new agencies or some frontier aspirational project, etc.
To get more info:
Talk to retired CS, specially who retired at the state level only.