Practice Issue: Feel free to comment!

[dauwhe]

For those who are new to GitHub, feel free to comment on this issue for practice!

[nekennedy]

Hi Dave!

[timlockridge]

Hi, all! I don't see an edit button on the wiki page (to add my name to a task force). Do I need to be a collaborator to edit?

[dauwhe]

Tim, I just added you as a collaborator. Anyone else, just ask me and I'll add you.

[timlockridge]

Thanks!

[BillKasdorf]

I signed in to Accessibility and Education. I should probably be monitoring the Testing and Validation TF, especially if it also involves epubtest.org, because of the BISG connection. We didn't discuss epubtest.org on the call. Is that part of the T&V TF?

[dauwhe]

Yes, epubtest.org would be a topic of interest to a testing and validation task force.

[mattgarrish]

We had a separate idpf group for the test suite initially but all it did was make coordination complicated as it and epubtest.org became more tightly bound, so that's how BISG ended up taking charge of both. It might be better to look at expanding that BISG group than striking up another. (Assuming that group is still a going concern.)

Of course, if there are other testing issues (epubtest.org has its objectives), I'm not arguing against a task force.

[teytag]

Remote-resource properties are not available on the "features support" page. Why? Does anyone have information? -> http://epubtest.org/features/

[dauwhe]

@teytag my guess is that no one wrote a test for those features.

[dauwhe]

@mattgarrish I need to talk to Brian about BISG's role in all this.

BillK: This will be on the agenda for the PBG call next week. Brian will be calling in. We've been waiting for him to be available to put it on the agenda.

[teytag]

Thanks for info @dauwhe ... But I know that EPUB-Checker does not accept this feature (remote-resources).

[teytag]

For me Github is okey. No problem about to use it. Have a nice day...

[BillKasdorf]

How best to handle epubtest.org and the BISG Grid is an open and ongoing discussion between the W3C, BISG, and DAISY. There are good arguments for keeping the Accessibility testing as is but changing how the "mainstream testing" for epubtest.org should be done. While it's presumed those three organizations will still collaborate on this, the roles may shift now that IDPF is part of W3C.

[GeorgeKerscher]

OK, I am putting in a new comment I also can tell that I can edit comments others have made. Good think markdown is supported.

Oops, It looks like I can edit my own comments, like this one, but not others, which is fine.

[GeorgeKerscher]

George is adding a new comment here.

[GeorgeKerscher]

In trying to figure out how to save my comment, I accidently closed it, but seeing the error of my ways, I re-opened, hopefully. so, trying to figure out how to save my comment.

[TzviyaSiegman]

@GeorgeKerscher this is all part of learning to use GitHub. You have successfully demonstrated that one can close and reopen an issue without losing any information.

[mattgarrish]

@teytag If you can demonstrate what problem epubcheck has validating the remote-resource property, please document it in the issue tracker for that project.

If it's that vendors aren't allowing remote resources independent of what epubcheck validates, or reading systems don't support, there's nothing that can be done about that.

[tofi86]

@dauwhe please add me as a collaborator or at least add me to the test & validation task force :) Thanks.

[teytag]

Hi @mattgarrish After long time I have checked this topic in this morning. EPUB is valid! Thanks for info...

[nvdaes]

Hi, I'm a user of the NVDA screen reader for Windows, by @nvaccess and its community, and of TalkBack for Android. You can add me to the accessibility subgroup to contribute on GitHub. Perhaps I could help testing ePUB reading systems with NVDA or commenting related issues. I'm a contributor of the spanish website of NVDA, where we posted two articles about ePUB, since a part of the community of blind people seems not to know how to read ebooks in ePUB format, though there are some people and library interested on this:

• ePUB y NVDA. Leer en un formato accesible
• ePUB y NVDA (2). Edición y accesibilidad de los libros

Thanks.

[antelopeb]

Hello! Can I be added as a collaborator? Thanks!

[rickj]

Commenting to become a collaborator @dauwhe

[dauwhe]

@rickj, can you edit the wiki already? All the steering committee members should already have access.

[rdeltour]

Hi @dauwhe, can you please add me as a collaborator? Thanks Dave! 🐳

[dualpixel]

Hi, I can contribute with Testing and Validating

[dualpixel]

Let's start. Thanks @dauwhe

[tofi86]

@dualpixel Felipe, if you're also interested in helping with EpubCheck Java develepment, feel free to contact me or Romain Deltoru (@rdeltour) for further planning.

[feale]

@tofi86 Hi, Tobias I am a designer and I have worked with production of ePUB since 2011, w/ InDesign, Sigil, HTML Editors, etc. Then, I can help with code development.

Regards

[peppobon]

@dauwhe Hi Dave, can you please add me as a collaborator to the edupub wg?

My name is peppo bonelli and I am a digital publishing consultant base in Milan, Italy. I was member of the old idpf epub/edupub group.

Glad to meet again you all here.

__peppo

[gregoriopellegrino]

Hi @dauwhe! I'm here to take part to the CG.

Thanks, Gregorio

[ismith-cm]

@dauwhe, please add me as a collaborator. I would like to be involved in the Testing & Validation, as well as the Accessibility task force groups. Thanks.

[edwinalui82]

@dauwhe Sorry I missed the first telecon! Happy to participate, representing Kaplan Publishing and Kaplan Test Prep. Can you add me to Accessibility and Education? Thanks!

[nekennedy]

My rather aggressive corporate spam filter has decided this thread is spam. If you also have to deal with aggressive spam filters, you might want to add github.com to your permitted list.

[WSchindler]

@dauwhe May I get edit rights as a colloborator, too, or would you prefer to restrict that right to members of the steering committe. I would also like to add further EPUB modules to be looked after in the "Specifications" section if that is OK for you. --> thanks, Dave :)

[WSchindler]

By the way, what's the difference between a colloborator and a contributor? Does the last category have more access rights?

[pbelfanti]

I'm looking for the Education TF/Group but can't locate it. Can someone point me in the right direction?

[pbelfanti]

Re epubtest.org, since a primary issue is resources to maintain, test, etc., wouldn’t it make sense to adopt a certification model like IMS Global does with LTI compliance and have the Reader platforms contribute a modest fee to support the site, since they would benefit from being listed as a compliant platform?

Paul — Paul Belfanti Vice President, Production, Manufacturing & Content Architecture Ascend Learning (w) 978.639.3536 (m) 201.783.4884

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How best to handle epubtest.org and the BISG Grid is an open and ongoing discussion between the W3C, BISG, and DAISY. There are good arguments for keeping the Accessibility testing as is but changing how the "mainstream testing" for epubtest.org should be done. While it's presumed those three organizations will still collaborate on this, the roles may shift now that IDPF is part of W3C.

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[pbelfanti]

BTW, I wanted to reply to Bill K's post directly here in Github, but it was unclear how to respond in line with his post, so I did so via email. If someone would school me on how that works, I'd appreciate it.

[mattgarrish]

@pbelfanti sign up is on the wiki: https://github.com/w3c/pub-cg/wiki

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[JFTavares]

Hi @dauwhe. I work at Booknando Livros from Brazil and I´d like to contribute. Please add me as a collaborator. I would like to be involved in the Education task force group, as well as the Accessibility group. Thank you!

[dualpixel]

HI, @JFTavares We can divide some tasks because I would like to be involved in the Education and Accessibility group. Regards

[pbelfanti]

If you select the text you want to quote and press "r" github automatically will quote it into your reply.

Thank you Matt :)

[JFTavares]

Hi, @dualpixel Sure, we can make some tasks together.

[artbyrt]

Hi Dave: My experimental comment as per request

[llemeurfr]

• Hi Dave @dauwhe, please add me as a collaborator. EDRLab may be involved in the Testing & Validation task force group for epubcheck maintenance. Thanks.

[laudrain]

Hi Dave, please add me too. I'd like to put my name in Accessibility list of participant. Thanks.

[teytag]

Hi @tofi86 I will be suggestion for EPUB check new features. -> https://github.com/IDPF/epubcheck/wiki/WorkPlan#new-features If it's validated after EPUB check proccess this logo can embed into "toc.xhtml" file. So that the each epubs will be reliable and readers can be check to this epub with specific QR code. Like a at the picture...

[BNGOBooks]

Hello Dave, I've communicated with Avneesh this morning, so am on the a11y task force. Thanks.

[tofi86]

@teytag To be honest, I don't understand yet, what your goal ist. Please open a new issue at the EpubCheck issue tracker and describe your usecase a little bit more.