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Consider allowing paid hospitality and donation-Requested hospitality #418

Open rfay opened 10 years ago

rfay commented 10 years ago

There are so many good businesses that provide hospitality to cyclists, often in places where volunteer hosts could never keep up. I think we should allow them, Mark them with a different color on the map and clearly mark their profile.

We'd also need to do some publicity about a change like this.

Also, the suggested annual donation to Ws should probably be higher for commercial ventures (assuming we do that).

We should probably have donation-suggested and commercial hosts as separate, and mark both of those categories on their profile (which should have a bit of a different design).

Membership type should go into the user object so it can be reported by the various services (and shown on the map as different color). Mobile apps will want to differentiate these as well.

rfay commented 9 years ago

Mistakenly closed by commit, reopening

marshall2389 commented 9 years ago

I would love to see this incorporated into the site. Another feature that would give cyclists more options, especially useful in areas with low host density, would be a way to mark good places to put down your sleeping bag. This would be a user driven thing. On a recent trip I was lucky enough to cross paths with someone who had just come from where I was going. I called him the next three nights and got great camping advice. This kind of information would be helpful to have on WS.

rfay commented 9 years ago

This would be a great service to touring cyclists, but would likely be very controversial since we've always been about free accommodations only.

rfay commented 9 years ago

Related: Services like bike mechanics.

kalpaitch commented 9 years ago

Yea, I'm tending to think negatively about this one already, I encountered a few CouchSurfing on my recent trip who had requested renumeration. It immediately made me think badly about them and CS.

I don't think it's a bad idea but would be happier if it was decoupled from the current path. Maybe anything like this would be better thought of as separate entities and as a separate search.

kalpaitch commented 9 years ago

I fear that if people realise they can get money from hosting there would be a reduction in the number of good will hosts. It's that special reciprocal nature that makes the WS community so special.

martinmemartin commented 9 years ago

We would have to be very careful about introducing this kind of thing. Part of that care would be asking membership what they thought of it and being VERY explicit about who and what.

Even then I'm afraid we'd wind up having all kinds of problems.

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 10:49 AM, kalpaitch notifications@github.com wrote:

I fear that if people realise they can get money from hosting there would be a reduction in the number of good will hosts. It's that special reciprocal nature that makes the WS community so special.

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jackturner7678 commented 9 years ago

I would think that a mandatory "donation" would be required for a commercial entity. It should be much larger than our member donation. They are receiving very specific advertising to over 50k.

Jack

On Apr 26, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Mark E. Martin notifications@github.com wrote:

We would have to be very careful about introducing this kind of thing. Part of that care would be asking membership what they thought of it and being VERY explicit about who and what.

Even then I'm afraid we'd wind up having all kinds of problems.

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 10:49 AM, kalpaitch notifications@github.com wrote:

I fear that if people realise they can get money from hosting there would be a reduction in the number of good will hosts. It's that special reciprocal nature that makes the WS community so special.

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/warmshowers/Warmshowers.org/issues/418#issuecomment-96402115 .

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martinmemartin commented 9 years ago

I hadn't thought of this as a way to raise money. Ads on the site were mentioned by a number of members as potentially acceptable.

Again, we'd have to be VERY, VERY careful about how we would roll out such a thing should we decide to do so.

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 11:57 AM, jackturner7678 notifications@github.com wrote:

I would think that a mandatory "donation" would be required for a commercial entity. It should be much larger than our member donation. They are receiving very specific advertising to over 50k.

Jack

On Apr 26, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Mark E. Martin notifications@github.com wrote:

We would have to be very careful about introducing this kind of thing. Part of that care would be asking membership what they thought of it and being VERY explicit about who and what.

Even then I'm afraid we'd wind up having all kinds of problems.

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 10:49 AM, kalpaitch notifications@github.com wrote:

I fear that if people realise they can get money from hosting there would be a reduction in the number of good will hosts. It's that special reciprocal nature that makes the WS community so special.

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub < https://github.com/warmshowers/Warmshowers.org/issues/418#issuecomment-96402115

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