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Mod Installer for the Higurashi and Umineko Games
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Update BGM/SE options in installer #139

Closed drojf closed 3 years ago

drojf commented 3 years ago

Previously, we had the BGM/SE fix applied by default, with no option to use the april update bgm/se. People requested the april update bgm/seback, so the option was added back (by me), but probably not in the best way.

Our installer options for the BGM/SE looks like this:

installer options 1

It should probably have the fix by default, like this:

installer options 2

But there are other changes to consider like updating the title, description. Also as italo mentioned:

Another option is to take that section away entirely and just add the bgm/se April update in the optional section, together with the ost remake

That option sounds reasonable to me, but we need to make it very clear in the wiki and in the installer that our mod comes with the BGM/SE patch by default, as it's currently not documented anywhere except for the FAQ and in our current installer option itself.

Personally I prefer the explicit option version (the second image above) as it's the most clear to me (the text could be updated though).

drojf commented 3 years ago

Here is the current text in text form, so you can edit it easier:

BGM Fix

Attempts to fix some of the problems with the April BGM/SE Update - See the wiki for more details. The method used was:

Restore April Update

Re-applies the april update BGM. Use this if you previously applied the BGM fix, but want to go back to the april update BGM.

ItaloKnox commented 3 years ago

Okay, so a couple of suggestions on how to handle this:

The BGM/SE 2-option route

BGM Options

This change capitalizes into rewriting how the fixes are presented, making the choice less about "right" or "wrong" and more about user choice.

Edit: It's also worth noting that the vast majority of the users most likely ignore or not understand the changes we did in the old BGM fix. For them it's just a reversion of the new music and only a minority can catch the remakes that stayed from the update (such as Dawn and Fascism)

The optional download route

Like you said, that one would require extra clarification, and I feel like it won't be enough. It seems to be very common for people to join our Discord before reading the wiki, even though that would actually take longer. I would only go with that route in case the previous one isn't enough.

drojf commented 3 years ago

The BGM/SE 2-option route

sounds good to me, but are you sure you want to remove the link to the wiki? It currently links to this page: https://07th-mod.com/wiki/Higurashi/FAQ/#what-was-the-april-update

ItaloKnox commented 3 years ago

Oh, I didn't even think about that. We should leave it in, I'm sure that will save the trouble of linking it on Discord every time someone asks about it.

Maybe change the option to:

Enable the new BGM introduced by MangaGamer in the April 2019 update. Learn more about the April update.

drojf commented 3 years ago

OK, currently have this:

image

all good?

ItaloKnox commented 3 years ago

Looks great!