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Opening Videos are too spoilery #101

Closed drojf closed 5 years ago

drojf commented 6 years ago

It was discussed on discord that the opening videos that we added in (the PS3 OPs) for Episodes 1-3 are too spoilery. I've opened this thread to discuss this topic.

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Just a refresher: Episodes 1-3 uses "umineko_op.mpg yt link", and Episode 4 uses "umineko_op3.mpg yt link"

If we're going to re-do the video files, we could possibly fix the video scale as well (the game upscales videos 2x by default, but I patched the .exe for Chiru to make it render at 1x scale). It may be a good idea to just render the video at different resolutions so it's easy to change in the future (1080p, 960p, and 480p). I should still have the ffmpeg command I used last time, if you're having trouble getting the game to play your video.

ItaloKnox commented 6 years ago

I feel like there is no winning in discussions like these. No one is ever satisfied with removing it or keeping it.

Is it too hard to code a dialog box where you can choose to see it or not and have it stored in a settings variable that persists when you restart the game? I feel like it's better to say "hey, you can choose to watch this spoilery thing" and wash your hands clean without dealing with the people who wanted it and the people who don't want it.

irlPM commented 6 years ago

I feel the same as Italo, it's certain that if we change the opening a lot of people will be mad too. There is no winning to this :(

drojf commented 6 years ago

yea it's pretty easy to add it in actually. I can make it ask you the first time you open the patched game [Show PS3 openings/Show Old Openings], but if you change your mind you can change it from the settings menu.

ItaloKnox commented 6 years ago

I wonder if we can do the same in Higurashi... I'll ask @idealpersona

drojf commented 6 years ago

Not sure about the wording on the text. Also, should I block the ep1-3 video only or ep4 as well? edit: looks like the ep4 OP isn't so bad, will leave that one in. stuff

ItaloKnox commented 6 years ago

The message looks fine. I would remove the "spoilery" from the choice and just leave it as Play PS3 Movies, it's redundant since the text before explains that the PS3 openings may contain spoilers.

drojf commented 6 years ago

Reopening to consider alternate opening videos

zeparu commented 5 years ago

also i just redownloaded a fresh install of umineko + patched it with the new 1080p version, and i never got this dialog to choose a movie option, i only got the one page about the volume options and i think a second page about the 1080p stuff? so this needs to be re-added to the 1080p versions of the script

drojf commented 5 years ago

For the 1080p arcs, I decided to use the forteisimo's re-make of the original game's opening, since it solves both the problem of spoilers and having the opening look the same as the original game.

however, you're right, i guess I should also have the option to show the ps3 opening video we were using before.

edit: reminder for myself of what I need to do to get this to work:

script:

files:

drojf commented 5 years ago

this should be fixed now, although the wiki (for manual install only) hasn't refreshed yet

ItaloKnox commented 5 years ago

@drojf I changed the server to update the wiki more often, now it should be refreshed every 30 minutes. I'll keep an eye on it to see if we can go lower, but I hardly believe we can get it in real time without a CPU upgrade.

drojf commented 5 years ago