API subscription expired

[PrimaveraNL]

Not a bug of the plugin BUT after the trial month I get the error API subscription expired. Please renew the API subscription at Tuya IoT Platform and all devices stop responding in homekit although they are still visible.

I remember seeing the option for 6 month renewal but I cannot find it on Tuya IOT platform any more. Has anyone found a solution for this?

[0x5e]

I'm not sure where to submit trial request too, but @ipa64 succeed. https://github.com/0x5e/homebridge-tuya-platform/issues/14#issuecomment-1296375297

[PrimaveraNL]

Thx. I found it in the mean time, very obscure. In any case; when the API subscription is expired, the plugin stops working. Making this remark for documentation purposes, I understand this is out of your field of influence. Thank you for the effort you put in this plugin though.

[0x5e]

OK I will update a much detailed message and document later after I extend the trail month. Thanks for the understanding, it's a challenge for me to write a long and specific guide in english :)

[0x5e]

Open the following page and click "Extend Trial Period" button to submit the request. Just input somethings and wait for approve. Tuya IoT Platform -> Cloud -> Cloud Services -> IoT Core

[hattabatatta]

If I may be honest: this crap with the trial period is the biggest crap there is. Nowhere in all these installation guides is it mentioned that the tool no longer works after a month because a trial period has expired, which you then have to renew manually. Of course, you could just take the subscription plan ... the cheapest version ONLY costs $25,000 anyway. We've all just shaken it out of our hands. I only noticed this rubbish with the trial period today when I was sitting in a freezing cold flat because none of my heaters were switched on -> Subscription expired.

I wish there was another tool that worked with my Wi-Fi radiators and Homekit so that I wouldn't have to deal with this mess every month.

[0x5e]

@hattabatatta You can extend 6 months at once, not every month. Of course the price is unresonable for individual users, but there's nothing I can do with the public API and SDK. Lan protocol is private and not published, you can find the local plugins with reverse engineering, but may not working on all firmwares.

[hattabatatta]

Yes, I saw the possibility of extending it by 6 months. But that doesn't make the whole thing any less absurd imho. I have already considered reverse engineering the apps of the providers, but unfortunately I only have iOS and dealing with it is a horror for me as a pure .NET developer :D

[0x5e]

Yes, "extending every 6 months" is the tuya company's decision, I can do nothing with that. I'm able to implement the lan protocol but I'm not allowed to do this, I think. You can search "tuya local" keywords on github.

[hattabatatta]

Don't worry I didn't mean it as an accusation ;) I'll see if I want to read up on the subject and then possibly create my own solution. The trial period is really totally stupid.

[PrimaveraNL]

The lan solution would be a possibility maybe, but you need to obtain the local key for the device first and I think that is only possible through the api? Which would mean that communication can be done locally, but you need a way of getting to the local key.

[0x5e]

Yes I agree :) @hattabatatta Yes localkey can only get from api, but it won't changed unless the device got removed/unpaired. @PrimaveraNL

[PrimaveraNL]

This is true, but when you would want to add a new device, you need a key for that. Unless you set it up and then do not expand your smart home, you will need an account with Tuya after the trial period.

BTW I got my whole realm working again after the subscription was renewed. There is no info on what the policy is after a 6 month trial.

[0x5e]

I think the first-time trial period won't get removed, so there's always a way to get the keys, create an new account is free, just cost time. But the extend period policy indeed has the possibility to change, it depends.

[Senna46]

I have a similar problem and have extended my IoT core for 6 months. However, the error continues.

[TuyaOpenAPI] API subscription expired. Please renew the API subscription at Tuya IoT Platform.
Fetching home list failed. code=28841002, msg=No permissions. Your subscription to cloud development plan has expired.

How long does it take to reconnect? Quite inconvenient.

[PrimaveraNL]

The subscription needs to be 'reviewed', I think it took about 1,5 days in my case. Maybe over the weekend it will take longer?

[Senna46]

Review approved, deadline extended. But it cannot make API request.

[0x5e]

Review approved, deadline extended.

But it cannot make API request.

From your description seems like a cloud side bug, please submit a ticket in the tuya platform.

[0x5e]

https://github.com/tuya/tuya-homebridge/issues/321

[Senna46]

After submitting the ticket, my issue was resolved. thx

[four43]

This whole Tuya platform seems like classic Chinese junk - super cheap poorly made hardware, 3rd rate connection platform that we have to work around because they want to spy on the data, not let us control it locally. @0x5e is doing awesome trying to work around their garbage here. Tuya hardware/platform is just that bad.

[0x5e]

@four43 This is just like we said in China, the Tesla car is spying our roads everywhere. Actually I think there's no value spying user's home temperature, or ceiling fan status. The value (I think) is to show to the investors that tuya platform have millions of users and devices connected, maybe that number will raise the stock price, I guess.

And Tuya make great efforts to obey the GDPR laws, they will keep the American user's data in the America, keep Europe user's data in the Europe, no user data transmisstion across the region. I used to be one of the member doing this. Don't worry about the privacy, I just worried about the latency and stability of the cloud control, and the uncertainty about the every 6 month extend request.

[githubnavigator]

@0x5e, thanks for sharing your perspective on the privacy. It's encouraging to hear. Do we need anything other than the free IoT Core subscription? I ask because when I log into my Homebridge Service API tab on the IoT Platform, I see these services enabled:

1. IoT Core
2. Smart Home Basic Service
3. Device Status Notification
4. Industry Basic Service

Are those last three included in the IoT Core? And, if not, are they free?

Thanks.

[0x5e]

@githubnavigator It's written on https://github.com/0x5e/homebridge-tuya-platform#configuration, it depends on what type of device you have. they are all free, but need to extend trial every 6 month :(