Closed sp2ong closed 2 years ago
Congratulations, you found a bug. I pushed a new version. The message should be more clear now. Thanks -fred-
OK nice and thank you very much
Hi Does it look like I am wrong in my suggestion ? Today I turn on DEBUG mode and I see that
a818 --debug filters --emphasis yes --highpass yes --lowpass yes SA818: DEBUG: Namespace(debug=True, emphasis=True, func='filters', highpass=True, lowpass=True, port=None) SA818: DEBUG: Sending: AT+SETFILTER=0,0,0
so AT+SETFILTER=0,0,0 it is mean that filters are ENABLED
sa818 --debug filters --emphasis no --highpass no --lowpass no SA818: DEBUG: Namespace(debug=True, emphasis=False, func='filters', highpass=False, lowpass=False, port=None) SA818: DEBUG: Sending: AT+SETFILTER=1,1,1
so value 1 corresponds to "bypass" so isn't it enabled???
Perhaps I misunderstand the term "bypass"
in manual SA818 is for example for pre/de emphasis:
PRE/DE-EMPH: 1: emphasis bypass 0: emphasis normal
I suppose it is that you are using negation on YES/NO value in cmd
cmd = "{}={},{},{}".format(self.FILTER, int(not opts.emphasis), int(not opts.highpass), int(not opts.lowpass))
I don't know why is used negation input value if in "def yesno()" YES is equivalent to 1
def yesno(parg): yes_strings = ["y", "yes", "true", "1", "on"] no_strings = ["n", "no", "false", "0", "off"]
I have fixed that in the new version
Thank you very much
73 Waldek SP2ONG
Hi
I am back again to this issue, help show:
--emphasis EMPHASIS Disable [Pr/De]-emphasis (yes/no) [default: no] --highpass HIGHPASS Disable high pass filter (yes/no) [default: no] --lowpass LOWPASS Disable low pass filters (yes/no) [default: no]
In the new version 0.2.4 I see in debug mode when I set DIISABLE all filters setting "yes" in command:
sa818 --debug --port /dev/ttyS0 filters --emphasis yes --highpass yes --lowpass yes
Debug show that Pre/De-emphasis is set to 0 not to 1, Is that correct ??
SA818: DEBUG: Sending: AT+SETFILTER=0,1,1
I suppose that in line 164
cmd = f"{self.FILTER}={int(not opts.emphasis)},{int(opts.highpass)},{int(opts.lowpass)}"
the not is not necessary for opts.emphasis
I see another script use to program SA818 and when
PreEmphasis Enabled: n
High Pass Enabled: n
Low Pass Enabled: n
The script sends the command:
AT+SETFILTER=1,1,1
So according to your help
--emphasis EMPHASIS Disable [Pr/De]-emphasis (yes/no) [default: no] --highpass HIGHPASS Disable high pass filter (yes/no) [default: no] --lowpass LOWPASS Disable low pass filters (yes/no) [default: no]
sa818 --debug --port /dev/ttyS0 filters --emphasis yes --highpass yes --lowpass yes
should send command:
AT+SETFILTER=1,1,1
Yes, that’s normal. If you look at page 5 of the programming manual, you will see the following:
1: emphasis bypass 0: emphasis normal
Which means 0 is on and 1 is off.
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I see another script use to program SA818 and when PreEmphasis Enabled: n High Pass Enabled: n Low Pass Enabled: n
The script sends the command: AT+SETFILTER=1,1,1 So according to your help --emphasis EMPHASIS Disable [Pr/De]-emphasis (yes/no) [default: no] --highpass HIGHPASS Disable high pass filter (yes/no) [default: no] --lowpass LOWPASS Disable low pass filters (yes/no) [default: no] sa818 --debug --port /dev/ttyS0 filters --emphasis yes --highpass yes --lowpass yes should send command: AT+SETFILTER=1,1,1 — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or unsubscribe. You are receiving this because you modified the open/close state.Message ID: @.***>
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HIGHPASS: 1: voice_highpass_filter_bypass 0: voice_highpass_filter normal LOWPASS: 1: voice_lowpass_filter_bypass 0: voice_lowpass_filter normal
so why when is set --highpass HIGHPASS Disable high pass filter yes -lowpass LOWPASS Disable low pass filters yes
your program send command:
AT+SETFILTER=0,1,1
???? I can not understood why for PreEMPHASIS Disable: yes mean 0 ? i AT command
Sorry for the stupid question because I can't understand
as you wrote 1: emphasis bypass where 1 is mean ON
1: voice_highpass_filter_bypass is ON or OFF ???
What is interesting when I send command to SA818 with all 1,1,1
SA818: DEBUG: Sending: AT+SETFILTER=1,1,1
SA818 replay info:
SA818: INFO: +DMOSETFILTER:0 filters [Pre/De]emphasis: Yes, high-pass: Yes, low-pass: Yes
For me is simple, question. If I want, switch off all FILTERS I need to send AT command
SA818: DEBUG: Sending: AT+SETFILTER=0,0,0
where SA818 send me replay:
SA818: INFO: +DMOSETFILTER:0 filters [Pre/De]emphasis: No, high-pass: No, low-pass: No
and If I want switch ON all filters /, I need to send command: SA818: DEBUG: Sending: AT+SETFILTER=1,1,1
and SA818 send me replay:
SA818: INFO: +DMOSETFILTER:0 filters [Pre/De]emphasis: Yes, high-pass: Yes, low-pass: Yes
This is what I get:
√ sa818 % ./sa818.py --debug --port /dev/cu.usbserial-A50285BI filters --emphasis yes --lowpass yes --highpass yes
SA818: DEBUG: Namespace(debug=True, port='/dev/cu.usbserial-A50285BI', speed=9600, emphasis=True, highpass=True, lowpass=True, func='filters')
SA818: DEBUG: Serial
√ sa818 % ./sa818.py --debug --port /dev/cu.usbserial-A50285BI filters --emphasis yes --lowpass yes --highpass yes
SA818: DEBUG: Namespace(debug=True, port='/dev/cu.usbserial-A50285BI', speed=9600, emphasis=False, highpass=True, lowpass=True, func='filters')
SA818: DEBUG: Serial
On the SA818, for the lowpass and highpass filters, 1 means on, and 0 means off. The emphasis 0 means normal (emphasis on), and 1 means bypass (emphasis off). I don’t know why the guys who developed the cheap did it that way.
You can check pages 5 and 6 of the programming manual: https://github.com/0x9900/SA818/blob/main/docs/SA818_programming_manual.pdf
-fred-
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For me is simple, question. If I want, switch off all FILTERS I need to send AT command
SA818: DEBUG: Sending: AT+SETFILTER=0,0,0/
where SA818 send me replay:
SA818: INFO: +DMOSETFILTER:0 filters [Pre/De]emphasis: No, high-pass: No, low-pass: No
and If I want switch ON all filters /, I need to send command: SA818: DEBUG: Sending: AT+SETFILTER=1,1,1
and SA818 send me replay:
SA818: INFO: +DMOSETFILTER:0 filters [Pre/De]emphasis: Yes, high-pass: Yes, low-pass: Yes
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Nice :-)
Our SA818 respond on command
sa818 --debug --port /dev/ttyS1 filters --emphasis yes --highpass yes --lowpass yes
SA818: DEBUG: Namespace(debug=True, port='/dev/ttyS1', speed=9600, emphasis=True, highpass=True, lowpass=True, func='filters')
SA818: DEBUG: Serial
It maybe bug in firmware version SA818 ?? I check on SA818S and SA818 I have similar respond from SA818 module Can you share version SA8188 firmware ???
So for our SA818 which we use I must correct your code and remove not for emphasis to send string 1,1,1 because is correct quality audio
I have check version firmware which we use on SA818 and SA818S is V1.1 sa818 --debug --port /dev/ttyS1 version SA818: DEBUG: Sending: AT+VERSION SA818: INFO: Firmware version: V1.1
What version firmware is your SA818?
Man, you have an old one.
√ sa818 % ./sa818.py --port /dev/cu.usbserial-A50285BI version SA818: INFO: Firmware version: V4.2
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I have check version firmware which we use on SA818 and SA818S is V1.1 sa818 --debug --port /dev/ttyS1 version SA818: DEBUG: Sending: AT+VERSION SA818: INFO: Firmware version: V1.1
What version firmware is your SA818?
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Interesting that SA818S is new module NICE-RF and has firmware version V1.1 so it maybe who produce firmware in SA818 is no proper set in EPROM
Look Nice_RF page: https://www.nicerf.com/walkie-talkie-module/walkie-talkie-module-sa818s-ce.html
But good know that version 4.2 has bug in EMPHASIS set filter :-)
It looks like it is the same with the SA818S
Parameter description: PRE/DE-EMPH, 0 means pre-emphasis/de-emphasis is on, 1 means pre-emphasis/de-emphasis is off;

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Interesting that SA818S is new module NICE-RF and has firmware version V1.1 so it maybe who produce firmware in SA818 is no proper set in EPROM
Look Nice_RF page: https://www.nicerf.com/walkie-talkie-module/walkie-talkie-module-sa818s-ce.html
But good know that version 4.2 has bug in EMPHASIS set filter :-)
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Thank you for the discussions and exchange of experiences and I know that the matter is not simple, depending on the radio modules they are used, EMPHASIS may be set differently
73 Waldek
I hate when companies lack of consistency. I have ordered an SA868. It’s one of their new products that has more power and a few interesting improvements. I will modify the program to include these new features as soon as I get the new module.
BTW, what is your callsign?
73 and Have fun. -fred-
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Thank you for the discussions and exchange of experiences and I know that the matter is not simple, depending on the radio modules they are used, EMPHASIS may be set differently
73 Waldek
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Hi,
My callsign is SP2ONG I am working on dashboard for hotspots where is possibility setup SA818 from Website
The project page is
It is an excellent site with exciting projects. Unfortunately, I don’t read Polish.
Also, after reading the documentation for the SA818 and SA818S, I concluded that all the filters take 0 for on and 1 for off. I have changed the program. The new version is on GitHub and PyPi.
73 -fred-
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Hi,
My callsign is SP2ONG I am working on dashboard for hotspots where is possibility setup SA818 from Website
The project page is
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Hi,
OK author python2 script for programming SA818 for Allstar Link project use
ENABLE filter send command AT+SETFILTER=0,0,0 DISABLE filter send command AT+SETFILTER=1,1,1
I found information on page OH2LAK: https://oh2lak.blogspot.com/2019/02/further-experiments-with-sa818.html
According to the the SA818 programming manual topic 3.5 "Audio Filet Command" I switched off the filtering by issuing command AT+SETFILTER=1,1,1 which disables pre- and de-emphasis and high- and lowpass filters.
But at the current version is correct help for setting filters?
--emphasis EMPHASIS Disable [Pr/De]-emphasis (yes/no) --highpass HIGHPASS Disable high pass filter (yes/no) --lowpass LOWPASS Disable low pass filters (yes/no)
When I set according to help switch OFF filters (DISABLE) I need to set "yes"
sa818 --port /dev/ttyS1 filters --emphasis yes --higpass yes --lowpass yes
program sa818 v0.2.5 send command:
sa818 --debug --port /dev/ttyS1 filters --emphasis yes --highpass yes --lowpass yes
SA818: DEBUG: Namespace(debug=True, port='/dev/ttyS1', speed=9600, emphasis=True, highpass=True, lowpass=True, func='filters')
SA818: DEBUG: Serial
so rather should be AT+SETFILTER=1,1,1
You must change help maybe to ?
--emphasis EMPHASIS Enable [Pr/De]-emphasis (yes/no) --highpass HIGHPASS Enable high pass filter (yes/no) --lowpass LOWPASS Enable low pass filters (yes/no)
when send AT+SETFILTER=0,0,0 as you wrote 0 means ON filter
if you use in HELP "Disable" you must remove "not" in the code during the send AT command to set filters
The only thing I can confirm is that if we set the filters disabled in our SA818 modules by typing the command AT+SETFILTER=1,1,1 provide the expected audio, i.e. the so-called FLAT AUDIO, similarly to GM340 Motorola with accessory pins.
73 Waldek
Below is part of the information from Allstar link script python2 for programming SA818:
# Set Filters:
# convert filters values, 0 is enable, and 1 is disable
if PreEmphasis == "n":
PreEmpFilter='1'
else:
PreEmpFilter='0'
if HighPass == "n":
HPass='1'
else:
HPass='0'
if LowPass == "n":
LPass='1'
else:
LPass='0'
I asked GNiceRF support what the programming options regarding Pre/De-Emphasis mean and received the following information:
This option affects the transmission of audio signals from 100Hz to 300Hz.
PRE/DE-EMPH:
1: emphasis bypass: Can transmit 100Hz~3KHz audio signal
0: emphasis normal: Can transmit 300Hz~3KHz audio signal
For FM transmission, the emphasis should be on. It can be done by the radio (Motorola or SA818) or by the Allstar software. One thing you don’t want is to have it on in the software and the radio. From my experience, the emphasis on the radio gives better audio. If you are doing digital, you want to have no emphasis turned on.
The code you sent me on the previous email shows what’s on the new version 0 means ON and 1 means OFF. I will look at the help messages and try to make it more clear.
Thanks 73 -fred-
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The only thing I can confirm is that if we set the filters disabled in our SA818 modules by typing the command AT+SETFILTER=1,1,1 provide the expected audio, i.e. the so-called FLAT AUDIO, similarly to GM340 Motorola with accessory pins.
73 Waldek
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Hi, Our experience shows that SA818 should be set to AT+SETFILTER=1,1,1 i.e. switch OFF all filters as GNiceRF wrote emphasis 1 in SA818 provides a wider frequency spectrum and we use svxlink software which enables pre-emphasis and de-emphasis which gives the best sound We tried different settings, we also have close quality audio when AT+SETFILTER=0,0,0 (i.e. all filters turned on) and preemphasis and deemphasis turned off in svxlink, but we have more complete audio with AT+SETFILTER=1,1,1 and PRE/ Demphasisi in svxlink ON
I am curious about Lowpass and Highpass filters of frequency ranges in SA818, I asked support about it but I have no answer yet
73 Waldek
Hi Fred,
I think you can change only in help for filters "Disable" to "Enable"
--emphasis EMPHASIS Enable [Pr/De]-emphasis (yes/no) [default: no]
--highpass HIGHPASS Enable high pass filter (yes/no) [default: no]
--lowpass LOWPASS Enable low pass filters (yes/no) [default: no]
It will be clear so if I set:
sa818 --debug --port /dev/ttyS1 filters --emphasis no --highpass no --lowpass no
it will be sent AT command
AT+SETFILTER=1,1,1
You can check the new version that I have just pushed. I think it will be less ambiguous. Instead of using yes and no, I use enable and disable. I have also replaced the argument close_tail by tail with [open/close] for parameter.
I have tested as much as I could, let me know if you find any problems.
73 -fred-
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Hi Fred,
I think you can change only in help for filters "Disable" to "Enable"
--emphasis EMPHASIS Enable [Pr/De]-emphasis (yes/no) [default: no] --highpass HIGHPASS Enable high pass filter (yes/no) [default: no] --lowpass LOWPASS Enable low pass filters (yes/no) [default: no] It will be clear so if I set:
sa818 --debug --port /dev/ttyS1 filters --emphasis no --highpass no --lowpass no
it will be sent AT command
AT+SETFILTER=1,1,1
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Hi Fred,
Yes, your proposal is very good and now clearly defines how to set up filters. Thanks, and I will adapt my html code in dashboard to the new version.
73 Waldek
Hi Fred,
For your information, we checked on another SA818 module which has firmware v1.11 and use the latest code sa818
sa818 --debug --port /dev/ttyS1 filters --emphasis disable --highpass disable --lowpass disable
SA818: DEBUG: Namespace(debug=True, port='/dev/ttyS1', speed=9600, emphasis=1, highpass=1, lowpass=1, func='filters')
SA818: DEBUG: Serial<id=0xb66d0e98, open=True>(port='/dev/ttyS1', baudrate=9600, bytesize=8, parity='N', stopbits=1, t timeout=3.0, xonxoff=False, rtscts=False, dsrdtr=False)
SA818: DEBUG: Sending: AT+DMOCONNECT
SA818: DEBUG: Sending: AT+SETFILTER=1,1,1
SA818: INFO: +DMOSETFILTER:0 filters [Pre/De]emphasis: disabled, high-pass: disabled, low-pass: disabled
sa818 --debug --port /dev/ttyS1 version
SA818: DEBUG: Namespace(debug=True, port='/dev/ttyS1', speed=9600, func='version')
SA818: DEBUG: Serial<id=0xb66bfeb0, open=True>(port='/dev/ttyS1', baudrate=9600, bytesize=8, parity='N', stopbits=1, timeout=3.0, xonxoff=False, rtscts=False, dsrdtr=False)
SA818: DEBUG: Sending: AT+DMOCONNECT
SA818: DEBUG: Sending: AT+VERSION
SA818: INFO: Firmware version: V1.11
Interesting info from radio
SA818: INFO: DMOSETFILTER:0 filters [Pre/De]emphasis: disabled, high-pass: disabled, low-pass: disabled
wheres instead "Yes" is 'disable" :-)
It seems that the software version number is so different that it cannot be used as a reference :-)
I don’t understand the problem here. It looks like everything is still working with that version of the firmware.
-fred-
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Hi Fred,
For your information, we checked on another SA818 module which has firmware v1.11 and use the latest code sa818
sa818 --debug --port /dev/ttyS1 filters --emphasis disable --highpass disable --lowpass disable SA818: DEBUG: Namespace(debug=True, port='/dev/ttyS1', speed=9600, emphasis=1, highpass=1, lowpass=1, func='filters') SA818: DEBUG: Serial
(port='/dev/ttyS1', baudrate=9600, bytesize=8, parity='N', stopbits=1, t timeout=3.0, xonxoff=False, rtscts=False, dsrdtr=False) SA818: DEBUG: Sending: AT+DMOCONNECT SA818: DEBUG: Sending: AT+SETFILTER=1,1,1 SA818: INFO: +DMOSETFILTER:0 filters [Pre/De]emphasis: disabled, high-pass: disabled, low-pass: disabled sa818 --debug --port /dev/ttyS1 version SA818: DEBUG: Namespace(debug=True, port='/dev/ttyS1', speed=9600, func='version') SA818: DEBUG: Serial
(port='/dev/ttyS1', baudrate=9600, bytesize=8, parity='N', stopbits=1, timeout=3.0, xonxoff=False, rtscts=False, dsrdtr=False) SA818: DEBUG: Sending: AT+DMOCONNECT SA818: DEBUG: Sending: AT+VERSION SA818: INFO: Firmware version: V1.11 Interesting info from radio SA818: INFO: DMOSETFILTER:0 filters [Pre/De]emphasis: disabled, high-pass: disabled, low-pass: disabled wheres instead "Yes" is 'disable" :-)
It seems that the software version number is so different that it cannot be used as a reference :-)
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Yes, working very well :-) But I see that show "Disable/Enable" instead "Yes/No" :-) from report radio is more clear
Oh yes, I also think it makes it clear now if the filters are active or not. Thank you very much for your help debugging. I am glad you find that tool helpful.
73 -fred-
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Yes, working very well :-) But I see that show "Disable/Enable" instead "Yes/No" :-) from report radio is more clear
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Hi,
I have a question about the FILTERS setup in SA818 using this program
In the code, the "yesno" procedure corresponds to YES 1 and NO 0 https://github.com/0x9900/SA818/blob/main/sa818.py#L249
by setting filters options
sa818 filtes --empahasis yes --highpass yes --lowpass yes
the parameters are described
--emphasis EMPHASIS Enable [Pr/De]-emphasis (yes/no) [default: no] --highpass HIGHPASS Enable high pass filter (yes/no) [default: no] --lowpass LOWPASS Enable low pass filters (yes/no) [default: no]
sent commands to SA818 with used "yes" will be
AT_SETFILTER = 1,1,1
so value 1 corresponds to "bypass" so isn't it enabled???
Perhaps I misunderstand the term "bypass"