deren/dessen as attributive pronouns

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If a linguistic problem:
What wordform makes the faulty analysis occur?
dessen
deren

What is the expected output? What do you see instead?

current output:
der<+REL><attr><Masc><Gen><Sg>
der<+REL><subst><Masc><Gen><Sg>
der<+DEM><subst><Masc><Gen><Sg>
das<+REL><attr><Neut><Gen><Sg>
das<+REL><subst><Neut><Gen><Sg>
das<+DEM><subst><Neut><Gen><Sg>

the following two analyses are problematic:
der<+REL><attr><Masc><Gen><Sg>
das<+REL><attr><Neut><Gen><Sg>

if used as an attributive reflexive pronoun, dessen/deren do not impose 
agreement constraints on their head.
die Frau, deren Kind gestorben ist.
die Frau, deren Kinder gestorben sind.
die Frau, deren Kinder ich kenne.

not sure if all possible combinations of gender/case/number should be listed, 
or if it should simply be left unspecified. For an application such as parsing 
or error correction, it is enough that no agreement violation is triggered. I'm 
attaching two alternative patches.

What version of Morphisto are you using?
r48

Original issue reported on code.google.com by rico.sen...@googlemail.com on 29 Aug 2011 at 8:58

Attachments:

• deren-dessen-unspecified.patch
• deren-dessen-all-analyses.patch

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But the releative pronoun is referring to the prior NP. Consider the output for 
"deren" and corresponding examples:
die<+REL><subst><Fem><Gen><Sg> - die Frau, deren ich gedachte
die<+REL><attr><Fem><Gen><Sg> - die Frau, deren Kinder ich kenne
die<+REL><attr><NoGend><Gen><Pl> - die Männer, deren Füße ich küsse

Agreement is checked for number and gender with the NP of the matrix clause and 
(only in cases of substantive relative clauses) for case with the verb of the 
relative clause . Your patch allows for:
*die Frau, dessen Kinder ich kenne

Original comment by wuerz...@gmail.com on 29 Aug 2011 at 10:33

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ok, I can treat "deren" and "dessen" as exceptions as far as agreement is 
concerned. However, I can't think of any case where an attributive "dessen" 
would be in case agreement with anything else - as far as I can see, this only 
applies to the substituting one.

Original comment by rico.sen...@googlemail.com on 29 Aug 2011 at 11:49

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I am still not fully convinced: What about "Ich habe einen Freund verloren, den 
ich häufig vermisse." vs. "Ich habe einen Freund verloren, dessen ich häufig 
gedenke."? Attributive relative clause with case agreement between subordinate 
verb and relative pronoun.

Original comment by wuerz...@gmail.com on 29 Aug 2011 at 1:18

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in your example, 'dessen' is used as a substituting pronoun. I'm perfectly fine 
with its analysis. 

I'm only concerned with "dessen" in the attributive function, i.e. when it's 
headed by a noun (and I don't mean the noun in the matrix clause, but "Kinder" 
in my first post).

Original comment by rico.sen...@googlemail.com on 29 Aug 2011 at 1:26