Did I find a softlock?

[VirtualEstatePlanner]

Seed Information

https://sotn.io/?12b,1618262658587

Randomizer version:

3.5.6 Safe

Spoilers:

Seed: 1618262658587 Starting equipment: Morningstar Medusa shield Steel helm Cloth tunic Blood cloak Turquoise Relic locations: Soul of Bat at Silver ring Fire of Bat at Cube of Zoe Echo of Bat at Fire of Bat Force of Echo at Eye of Vlad Soul of Wolf at Crystal cloak Power of Wolf at Spirit Orb Skill of Wolf at Soul of Bat Form of Mist at Gas Cloud Power of Mist at Demon Card Gas Cloud at Dark Blade Cube of Zoe at Merman Statue Spirit Orb at Trio Gravity Boots at Soul of Wolf Leap Stone at Mormegil Holy Symbol at Ring of Arcana Faerie Scroll at Echo of Bat Jewel of Open at Form of Mist Merman Statue at Power of Mist Bat Card at Leap Stone Ghost Card at Ghost Card Faerie Card at Skill of Wolf Demon Card at Ring of Vlad Sword Card at Jewel of Open Sprite Card at Tooth of Vlad Nosedevil Card at Force of Echo Heart of Vlad at Holy glasses Tooth of Vlad at Heart of Vlad Rib of Vlad at Rib of Vlad Ring of Vlad at Faerie Card Eye of Vlad at Bat Card Spike Breaker at Power of Wolf Diamond at Gold ring Silver Ring at Spike Breaker Stone mask at Holy Symbol Solutions: Stone mask < Merman Statue < Leap Stone ^ Soul of Wolf < Jewel of Open < Gravity Boots ^ Power of Wolf Heart of Vlad ^ Silver Ring ^ Soul of Bat ^ Form of Mist < Stone mask < Merman Statue < Leap Stone ^ Soul of Wolf < Jewel of Open < Gravity Boots ^ Power of Wolf ^ Spike Breaker < Leap Stone ^ Soul of Wolf < Jewel of Open < Gravity Boots ^ Power of Wolf ^ Echo of Bat < Leap Stone ^ Soul of Wolf < Jewel of Open < Gravity Boots ^ Power of Wolf ^ Diamond < Leap Stone ^ Soul of Wolf < Jewel of Open < Gravity Boots ^ Power of Wolf Tooth of Vlad < Stone mask < Merman Statue < Leap Stone ^ Soul of Wolf < Jewel of Open < Gravity Boots ^ Power of Wolf Rib of Vlad < Stone mask < Merman Statue < Leap Stone ^ Soul of Wolf < Jewel of Open < Gravity Boots ^ Power of Wolf Ring of Vlad < Gravity Boots Eye of Vlad < Gravity Boots Complexity: 10

Playthrough information

So... I've been all through both castles, and I have no silver ring or item with it's description text.

I have 196.8% map coverage, which includes all of the relic locations I can reach. The only areas remaining are holy glasses (I have the Gold Ring description on accessory item Diamond, Silver Ring is missing) location in the regular castle and the Shaft/Dracula area in inverted castle.

I'm still missing Silver Ring (or equivalent with another name - should have been at Spike Breaker as per spoiler), Skill of Wolf (should have been at Soul of Bat as per spoiler), Cube of Zoe (should have been at Merman Statue), Ring of Vlad (should have been at Faerie Card), and Heart of Vlad (should theoretically still be at the holy glasses plot event).

It seems to me like some relics just didn't spawn.

[TalicZealot]

I checked the seed and Silver Ring was exactly where the seed says it is. Are you sure you randomized the original bin and not one that had already been randomized?

[VirtualEstatePlanner]

That's probably what happened. I'll try another spin on the seed in a couple of hours.

[3snowp7im]

Closing because this sounds like a classic case of a re-randomized bin. Feel free to open a new ticket if you experience similar issues with a verified vanilla bin.

[VirtualEstatePlanner]

I'm trying a run off a verified vanilla bin, and none of the item locations or drops seem different - just that some of them are there now.

Is this the behavior we expect from a double randomized seed?

If needed, I can send you the faulty bin file.

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On Apr 16, 2021, at 2:50 PM, 3snowp7im @.***> wrote:

 Closing because this sounds like a classic case of a re-randomized bin. Feel free to open a new ticket if you experience similar issues with a verified vanilla bin.

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[TalicZealot]

This is expected, you should use a vanilla non-randomized bin to generate seeds.