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deposition chemistry vocabulary #40

Closed markusfiebig closed 6 months ago

markusfiebig commented 6 months ago

We are in the process of defining vocabulary for variables describing deposition chemistry (needed to make EBAS content visible).

@swr99ejo , would, in your head, precipitation mass flux a.k.a. wet deposition , be the same as hydrometeor mass flux ? If so, why do we use hydrometeor instead of precipitation ?

This is related to issue #11 .

swr99ejo commented 6 months ago

Hydrometeor includes liquid cloud, ice particles, drizzle, rain, so not all particles are precipitating. However, vertical (and horizontal) air motion means that there can be a significant hydrometeor flux without any precipitation present. Note that these mass fluxes are not necessarily with respect to the surface, for surface fluxes we would include a surface (sfc) prefix to the variable names.

markusfiebig commented 6 months ago

But if I interpret your words correctly, then "hydrometeor downward flux at the surface" is the same as "precipitation"?

swr99ejo commented 6 months ago

Only precipitation at the surface, not in the atmosphere. In principle, hydrometeor downward flux at the surface could include situations such as dew or frost, which is not from precipitation..

markusfiebig commented 6 months ago

Should we then have "precipitation" as separate matrix, with the definition:

hydrometeor downward flux at the surface, including dew, frost, and fog

?

swr99ejo commented 6 months ago

Precipitation implies droplets/drops with appreciable terminal fall velocity, whereas there can be a flux of any droplets/particles due to air motion. Precipitation at the surface is therefore not quite the same as precipitation in the atmosphere

markusfiebig commented 6 months ago

Solved!