Open fedorov opened 7 years ago
Currently building of the binder is failing due to #276
If I recall, binder is not maintained anymore.
Cc: @thewtex
It's not currently working for me (constant spinning logo and server error in the browser console).
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 1:17 PM, Jean-Christophe Fillion-Robin < notifications@github.com> wrote:
If I recall, binder is not maintained anymore.
Cc: @thewtex https://github.com/thewtex
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If you check the status, it is down: http://mybinder.org/status
@thewtex should be able to confirm, but if i recall they run out of funding. The model was not sustainable ( to be confirmed)
See the URL I included in the initial post ;-)
cc: @yuvipanda
Working example: https://github.com/minrk/ligo-binder and direct binder url https://beta.mybinder.org/v2/gh/minrk/ligo-binder/master?filepath=index.ipynb
Indeed, there are mybinder.org and beta.mybinder.org
I just wonder what is backing up beta.mybinder.org.
On Jul 17, 2017 1:24 PM, "Andrey Fedorov" notifications@github.com wrote:
See the URL I included in the initial post ;-)
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@fedorov your original post didn't link to a working example!
indeed. What I meant to imply in an awkward manner is that I was not referring to http://mybinder.org. https://beta.mybinder.org/ can presumably be used for any repo that has a python notebook, so I was not sure what exactly was not working and timed out from https://beta.mybinder.org/.
Heya! Me and @choldgraf and others from the Jupyter Project have started assisting mybinder, and rewrote it to run on top of JupyterHub. beta.mybinder.org is the newer version, and should be a lot more stable (and we're committed to supporting it, and have structural support to doing so). The long term hope is that we make it really easy for institutions, publications and organizations to set up their own binder install, so people can use the same compatible repositories on any of them.
Am happy to help answer any other questions!
Thanks for the info @yuvipanda! This will be very helpful.
@yuvipanda That is fantastic to hear! For organizations that do not have the resources to set up their own JupyterHub instance, how many resources are available and how long will they be available for?
+1 to what Yuvi said!
To @thewtex's question, Binder is a space that's evolving relatively rapidly right now so it's hard to say exactly what resources etc are available. That said, there's definitely a lot of interest in making the platform as easy as possible to deploy on other servers etc, and also a lot of interest in keeping the public mybinder.org
service running as a public good. Feel free to open an issue over on the binderhub repo if there's a specific configuration setup you're concerned about (https://github.com/jupyterhub/binderhub)
Using the branch from #285, I was able to build and launch using MyBinder. This required some changes to the dockerfile, as 3 notebooks are run as part of the build process, which assume a certain structure of the files and folders.
just a quick thought - Binder now supports new features of repo2docker, including the ability to run shell scripts prior to generating the Docker image. So if you'd like to handle pre-build stuff with scripts instead of a Dockerfile, that should be possible now!
FYI another free cloud-based notebook hosting platform: https://notebooks.azure.com
Disadvantages:
Advantages:
FWIW, Binder is actively supported as well ;-) (this wasn't true 9 months ago but it's a jupyter project now)
Also I'm curious what you mean by "more robust"?
(full disclosure: I'm on the jupyter team and working on the binder project :-) )
@choldgraf sorry, I didn't mean to offend you! I have a lot of respect to Binder, and it has some significant advantages!
What I meant by "actively supported" is that is has Microsoft and Azure backing it, so there is a clear entity with deep pockets paying for the cloud cycles. I also liked that there is a timeline with updates which seems to be updated quite often. With Binder, documentation seems to be quite dispersed, it is not clear how to do things beyond the example binders, and what is going on with the development. It was also confusing to me as a beginner to find my way around (I have not tried very hard, I admit) the soup of terms "binder", "beta binder", "jupyter hub", "docker2repo" - it is quite hard to understand how to navigate this and what is going on. BUT (and that's a HUGE "but"!!!) once I get something that "just works" - I am pretty happy - as long as it works - and I don't care that much how and why it works.
About robustness - I was referring to the discussion we had on gitter with @minrk. Yesterday I had a mysterious failure to launch, with no error messages, which you guys seemed to have traced down to github throttling due to lack of OAuth integration. @minrk seemed to suggest that with the Azure Notebooks there would be no problems loading (and that's understandable given how much resources MS has).
absolutely not offended :-) just trying to figure out where binder isn't meeting expectations so that we can figure out if/how we should try to improve things!
I totally agree about all the issues you just noted - some of them are just because the tech behind Binder is definitely still in a beta state...this stuff didn't exist in its current form > 4 months ago :-) if there's something in particular that's confusing etc in the documentation, don't hesitate to open an issue in the binder
or binderhub
repos. One of our next focuses is to build up the documentation.
@choldgraf I think a good start would be to add a link to the documentation / "getting started" / examples to the front page: https://beta.mybinder.org/. It is quite confusing that the front page does not have any pointer to the documentation!
that's a good point! I agree that should be posted there...
FWIW, here are the docs we'll iterate on for the beta deployment: http://mybinder.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
See https://beta.mybinder.org/