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APL-Huddersfield / HULTI-GENv2

An update to the original HULTI-GEN listening test software. Now includes psychometric testing, real-time binauralisation, and features a modular setup to help expand its testing capabilities in the future.
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Freeze at "Create" #1

Open SDX-LV opened 2 years ago

SDX-LV commented 2 years ago

Hello,

Based on the YouTube video and the manual HULTI-GEN looks like an excellent tool and I am very excited to extend it to support more advanced binaural rendering. Right now I've been trying to get HULTI-GEN v2.0.5 to work on Windows 10 64bit and latest Max 8.2.2.

In short - it does not work at all. Main symptom - Pressing "Create" test never opens anything (and as I do not have any test to try, I can't test other functionality). In fact, after pressing "Create" all messege boxes in Max stop working. for example if I open "trigger.maxhelp" and press on "hello" the trigger only outputs the Bang, but message boxes stay blank. As I am new to Max, I may be missing something obvious.

Some more info:

Best Regards, Sergejs

rabgurn commented 2 years ago

Hi, did you have any luck resolving this? I am experiencing the same issue and any help would be greatly appreciated as I need this experiment planned for next week!

SDX-LV commented 2 years ago

Hi, after more debugging I am convinced that there is a bug in Max itself. Max 8.2.2 even crashes altogether if I put a breakpoint in front of the "Dialog" object (which is called by the Create button). I opened a support case at Cycling, so maybe they can fix this bug.

If you absolutely have to use this now, try downloading older version of Max. If you find a version that works, would be good to write back.

good luck.

rabgurn commented 2 years ago

Hi, are you using windows? I was but then the issue disappeared for me completely when I tried it on my friend's mac! Have you tried it with older versions? I'm sure I will at some point so I will let you know how I get on. Thanks for the response!

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Hi, after more debugging I am convinced that there is a bug in Max itself. Max 8.2.2 even crashes altogether if I put a breakpoint in front of the "Dialog" object (which is called by the Create button). I opened a support case at Cycling, so maybe they can fix this bug.

If you absolutely have to use this now, try downloading older version of Max. If you find a version that works, would be good to write back.

good luck.

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SDX-LV commented 2 years ago

Hi, good to know about Mac. As I have ideas to extend the functionality of HULTI-GEN, I would like it to work on Windows :) And the fact that it crashes in debugger says that it is not something we can fix (maybe we can find a workaround, but it shouldn't be necessary).

rabgurn commented 2 years ago

Hi again, your extended functionality doesn’t include adding images by any chance? If it does that would save me a lot of time if you have it working and wouldn’t mind sharing :)

I’ve managed to get in touch with the creators and they say there is a work around, I’ve copied that in below.

“The workaround is to open Max in Windows 8 compatibility mode. To do this, right click on the Max shortcut, goto Properties, then goto the Compatibility tab. In there you can change the compatibility mode to Windows 8.

It might make Max run slower, and it will make Hultigen look like it has hung when go to create a new, but if you wait a few mins after pressing Create, it then runs smoothly.”

Hope that helps :)

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Hi, good to know about Mac. As I have ideas to extend the functionality of HULTI-GEN, I would like it to work on Windows :) And the fact that it crashes in debugger says that it is not something we can fix (maybe we can find a workaround, but it shouldn't be necessary).

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ValleyAudio commented 2 years ago

Hi both,

Original dev here. Sorry about this mess, I also didn't receive the issue notification from Github since I'm not the owner of this repo's group, so apologies for the late reply.

Yes the Windows 8 compatibility mode is the current workaround for Windows 10 since some update in 10 broke HULTI-GEN.

I will leave this issue open until I patch HULTI-GEN. I think the issue lies in how I created the scrolling file lists as each entry is a bpatcher and these are dynamically created and patched when HULTI-GEN opens, and it must overload Max somehow.

rabgurn commented 2 years ago

Hi SDX-LV, have you had any issues when compiling your results? When I try to add files to the compiler they do not appear in the file list. Have you experienced this issue and do you have any ideas for a work around? Thanks, Robert

SDX-LV commented 2 years ago

Hello, Actually I tried the compatibility modes and it did not really work. In compatibility mode Max does not crash in debugger and the "Dialog" appears. I even got to the next screen, but then it basically never got any further - the Max just does not get responsive again. In addition other packages, for example SPAT, complain and refuse to work in compatibility mode.

So unfortunately HULTI-GEN remains to be in limbo for me - I am very much hoping for an update or a fix from Cycling 74. For me it is unusable. (If it helps, I could demonstrate live how it works for me over a video meeting)