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Crop failed due to loss of leaf area #1833

Closed Attia81 closed 4 years ago

Attia81 commented 4 years ago

Hello I'm calibrating new maize cultivar in arid sandy soil and have a problem with crop phenology. The observed phenology is late-medium maturity with anthesis at 65 DAS and physiological maturity at 114 DAS. While the simulated anthesis is good (64 DAS), the crop is terminated early at 98 DAS due to loss of leaf area. Is it too hot for APSIM or what's the problem.

some info

Crop Sowing Data

     Sowing   Depth  Plants Spacing Skiprow Cultivar
     Day no     mm     m^2    mm     code     name  
     -------------------------------------------------------
        139   100.0     7.0   700    1.0     mh12
     -------------------------------------------------------

  - reading constants for plant(maize) - mh12
     tt_emerg_to_endjuv       =  290.00
     tt_endjuv_to_init        =    0.00
     tt_init_to_flower        =   50.00
     tt_flower_to_maturity    =  750.00
     tt_flag_to_flower        =   10.00
     tt_flower_to_start_grain =  170.00
     tt_maturity_to_ripe      =    1.00
     ------------------------------------------------------

 Average Stress Indices:                          Water Photo  Water Expan  N Photo
    Emergence           to End of juvenile           1.0          1.0        1.0    
    End of juvenile     to Floral initiation         1.0          1.0        1.0
    Floral initiation   to Flag leaf                 0.8          0.5        1.0
    Flag leaf           to Flowering                 1.0          1.0        1.0
    Flowering           to Start grain fill          0.6          0.3        0.9
    Start grain fill    to End grain fill            0.9          0.8        1.0      #is this too much stress
24 August 2011(Day of year=236), maize:   
      ********** Crop failed due to loss of leaf area ********     Plant Death. Standing above-ground dm = 12080.02 (kg/ha)

*Note: using a late maturity cultivar in the default continuous maize example produced the same problem?

*Update: the 7.5 version worked fine and did not show this problem noted in 7.10 version!

Best, Ahmed

sarahcleary commented 4 years ago

@mcleang - are you able to assist?

BrianCollinss commented 4 years ago

@Attia81 I am not experienced with Maize mode. But you can add some irrigation to see whether it fixes the problem. If it does, plant might have started to senesce earlier or faster due to water shortage and you may need to recalibrate stress sensitivities.

Attia81 commented 4 years ago

@BenAbabaei Tried this and it did not resolve the problem. Not sure how to interpret the stress indices; is 1 indicates high or low stress?

The older version of APSIM 7.5 did not show this problem

BrianCollinss commented 4 years ago

For water stress, 1 means no stress and zero means severe water limitation.

Dr Ben (Behnam) Ababaei

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@BenAbabaeihttps://github.com/BenAbabaei Tried this and it did not resolve the problem. Not sure how to interpret the stress indices; is 1 indicates high or low stress?

The older version of APSIM 7.5 did not show this problem

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leandrogiovannini commented 4 years ago

I've also had this problem. It seems this issue was introduced after release 4194. I don't have this problem with APSIM 7.10r4194

peter-devoil commented 4 years ago

There were some canopy changes related to frost sensitivity introduced then. If you can find an example of misbehaviour, I'm sure @jbrider would be interested. Make sure you include your met file in the example.

XijuanXu commented 3 years ago

Hello I had the same problem. What do you find to be the cause of it? How did you solve it in the end? thanks

peter-devoil commented 3 years ago

Look for a very cold day in the met record.

XijuanXu commented 3 years ago

Dear sir I don't understand what you said. If I find the cold day in my met file. I used APSIM7.10-r4216 for my simulation. What should I do next? thanks

BrianCollinss commented 3 years ago

@XijuanXu Hi. Check your weather data (.met file) to see if you have very cold days during the growing season.

XijuanXu commented 3 years ago

I don't find extreme cold days during the maize growing season.

XijuanXu commented 3 years ago

Dear sir I studied yield changes in winter wheat-summer maize rotation under rainfed conditions from 1965 to 2100. I found that the leaf area of both wheat and corn was at a very low value, and the yield of wheat and corn was simulated to be very low. What causes their leaf area to be so low? What should I look for?

jbrider commented 3 years ago

If the temperature falls below 1.0 degrees it will remove nearly all of the current leaf area due to a frost event. Quite often the plant will not recover from this vent.

If the temperature falls below -3.5 it will kill the plant.

XijuanXu commented 3 years ago

hi I found it was probably due to the lack of water. When I added irrigation, I solved this problem. However, my experiment was rainfed, and there was a lot of rain during the summer corn growth period.

jbrider commented 3 years ago

If you graph the LAI you will be able to tell if it was from a frost event - there will be a sudden loss of LAI. You should also check your met file for any bad records - 0 values in summer for instance.
Looking at the LAI graphs should highlight any bad records.